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| Quote 21-12="21-12"I blame James Graham, he was captain after all and therefore should take full responsibility for the team performance AND having an awful accent live on BBC and showing the country up.'"
i loved it hahaha, i don't know why i've never heard him speak before! i allways assumed as he's from maghull (not actually liverpool) he wouldn't have a scouse accent.
brilliant, my new favourite, awesome choice for captain 
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| Quote Bovrick="Bovrick"Seriously, the BBC have the highlights. Watch the first try again: It was not Gouldings fault.
Shenton lets Fien pass to an onrushing Pritchard, who then gets on his outside shoulder - is past him, Shenton and Brown are out of the equation.
Goulding comes in, collars Pritchard and brings him down. Goulding and Fielden become markers. Three players move to their right to cover the stacked numbers on the Kiwi's left: Brown, Burgess and Shenton.
Fien dummy half, passes to Leuluai who cuts the pass (forward) to Sau, past all of three including a ballwatching Shenton, try.
Goulding couldn't have done any better in the situation. Plus you don't see many wingers bring Pritchard down like that anyway.
If Shenton hadn't made 2 decent breaks, he and Atkins would have been the scapegoats today imo.'"
You do realise confusing the poor dears with facts is tantamount to abuse? Please stop it, it really isn't fair on them.
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| Quote Bill_Barlow="Bill_Barlow"news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/9121138.stm
fast forward to 2 mins 30 seconds. I know who i think cost England the try.'"
How Goulging can get blamed for that is beyond belief.
I would love to see a response from Saintsfan to attempt to justify his/her opinion.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"I was very impressed to see him complete that tackle, i doubt many other wingers in the world would have completed that. Still he should not have bothered according to Saintsfan.'"
I know his defence has been solid at Wigan, I personally didn't expect it to translate into international. You can't imagine how relieved I was when Vatuvai was injured.
However, he seriously impressed me with how strong in defence he was, he has really translated that aspect of his game to internationals, as with his ability to consistently escape the markers on the scoot for good yards.
The sad fact is our centres don't know how to pass, so Goulding will never look good in attack. I think he was passed to once, on a stupid last tackle scoot from Joel I think, where it was shifted to him standing still and he had to get rid with a grubber.
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| Quote Bovrick="Bovrick"If Shenton hadn't made 2 decent breaks, he and Atkins would have been the scapegoats today imo.'"
I completely agree. Shenton on the whole was poor and because of one decent break, where he just ran into open space, he did nothing and people seem to just overlook how bad he was. In the first half his defence and positioning were awful. In the 2nd he got loads of ball and rarely threatened, bar the one break, but he is far too greedy and never looked to pass to his winger. Our centres were very weak and were often saved by our wingers, both Goulding and Briscoe, who were very solid under pressure and were big plus points in the backs for me.
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| it shows Wire have some good players as they make Atkins look good every week.
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| Until we start producing athletes in our code we will never ever compete with the Kiwi's/Aussies.
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| Sometimes we get athletes.
Sometimes we get players with brains.
Or with skill.
For some reason here, we never get these things at the same time.
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| This first try wasn't Goulding's fault.
Even if it was... Does it really matter? They battered us regardless of that try.
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| Quote Bovrick="Bovrick"Sometimes we get athletes.
Sometimes we get players with brains.
Or with skill.
For some reason here, we never get these things at the same time.'"
Atkins in English terms is considered to be an athlete which when you look at what the Aussies and Kiwi's have in the same position is actually embarrassing.
We have not produced an international class athlete since Hanley/Offiah, although maybe Burgess is the next one along with Sam, but it simply is not good enough and that is both a failure of the system and society for enabling young men to have such a poor work ethic.
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| I'd give Tomkins the captaincy now. "there you go son, have that for ten years"
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