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| Quote wiganrl="wiganrl"At the risk of being controversial Jack Hughes didn't do enough in attack again for me and bombed a simple walk in try. I'm not even acknowledging his try because he only finished off Tusons good work. Defensively i've little complaint but his attack needs alot of work how Richards is managing to score is beyond me because apart from last weeks solid offload his tries certainly ain't coming from Hughes, He isn't the long term replacement for Carmont at this time I hope he proves me wrong in the future.'"
A bit harsh, I feel - yeah that early drop was a horrible error, but he wasn't the only one making mistakes: Lockers had two early very wayward passes out left and then dropped a pass from Sam second half with the line open.
For a 20-year-old converted 2nd row having only his 4th game at centre, I think he's doing better than could have been expected.
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| Quote Bill Sonny="Bill Sonny"Best attack in the league
Best defence in the league
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and charnleys top try scorer
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| Quote Geoff="Geoff"A bit harsh, I feel - yeah that early drop was a horrible error, but he wasn't the only one making mistakes: Lockers had two early very wayward passes out left and then dropped a pass from Sam second half with the line open.
For a 20-year-old converted 2nd row having only his 4th game at centre, I think he's doing better than could have been expected.'"
I agree, Hughes is doing a great job there. In attack he might not be up to Carmont standard but I don't think there were many times when he could have done better during the game, except for the dropped ball.
I don't think he's seen as Carmont's long term replacement but he's doing very well as a stand in.
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| Quote Geoff="Geoff"A bit harsh, I feel - yeah that early drop was a horrible error, but he wasn't the only one making mistakes: Lockers had two early very wayward passes out left and then dropped a pass from Sam second half with the line open.
For a 20-year-old converted 2nd row having only his 4th game at centre, I think he's doing better than could have been expected.'"
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"I agree, Hughes is doing a great job there. In attack he might not be up to Carmont standard but I don't think there were many times when he could have done better during the game, except for the dropped ball.
I don't think he's seen as Carmont's long term replacement but he's doing very well as a stand in.'"
I think he's doing ALRIGHT nothing spectacular but average
I just think if he's not carmonts replacement and apparently gelling is thought he'd of got a game by now with hughes not setting the world on fire
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| Quote cherryandwhitedavid06="cherryandwhitedavid06"Wane has been on Radio Manchester and has said if Hock continues his form from the last 4 games he must be in contention for the England side'"
I will get a lot of stick from Wire fans if they read this but I feel Hock is as good as Westwood if not better and therefore should be in the England side on current form.
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| Quote TrentBarrett="TrentBarrett"I will get a lot of stick from Wire fans if they read this but I feel Hock is as good as Westwood if not better and therefore should be in the England side on current form.'"
oh no you didn't.. ben westwood's the greatest second rower in the world, nobody can do what he can do. Sam Thaiday? Tony Williams? No thanks, we'll take Benny Westwood every day of the week!
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| Quote bowvey="bowvey"I think he's doing ALRIGHT nothing spectacular but average
I just think if he's not carmonts replacement and apparently gelling is thought he'd of got a game by now with hughes not setting the world on fire'"
Gelling wasn't brought in particularly as Carmont's replacement though was he? he just as much as Hughes is very much a work in progress. I actually think he's doing pretty well considering. He must be impressing more than Gelling is in the reserves to be keeping his spot.
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| First of all I'd like to state that not only did we beat Catalan Dragons, but we beat Richard Silverwood as well. Talk about one set of rules for one team.
The entire match was a real grind, in no uncertain terms due the tactics employed by Catalan. To say they were niggly would be an understatement. The fact that for the majority of the match the likes of Hock and Lauaki didn't react, went a long way to us winning that game. The first half was a real arm wrestle, yet we should have come away from it with a lead, and healthy one at that.
The second half was much improved. The fact that we scored first despite the best efforts of Silverwood say's a lot. I've come away from the game greatly buoyed by the teams mental strength and concentration levels. A couple of years ago we'd have buckled in a game like that.
An all round damn good team performance. I'm particularly pleased for Ben Flower, he really looks to be settling in and finding his feet. Our own, albeit probably never as good, Paul Gallen IMO.
As for the criticism of Hughes. I'm much rather he was as safe as houses in defense, which he is. Than it be the other way round, and he be responsible for leaking in try's left, right and . His attack will come with time. The fact that we're the leading points scorers without our best centre playing is an encouraging fact.
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| Quote DP_wwrlfc="DP_wwrlfc"[uAgreed, he continues to defy the critics. Strong going forward and still not seeing many silly penalties or falling of tackles as we was told to expect from a few Hull fans.[/u
Also like that we have both him and Hock who will give it to them. Hock literally frightens some opposition players.'"
I always pop on to see how he is progressing I really rate him and glad he is doing well for you, he was never used correctly by Agar!! and if you check his stats for last season his silly penalties were folklore he hardly gives penalties away!
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| Quote Marfa Manu="Marfa Manu"I always pop on to see how he is progressing I really rate him and glad he is doing well for you, he was never used correctly by Agar!! and if you check his stats for last season his silly penalties were folklore he hardly gives penalties away!'"
Some fans like to make "facts" up that others latch on to and continually spout them. The Lauaki one is obviously one of them. Or they take a one-off bad performance and use that as a representative overall judgement of that player. Wigan's most common one off other team's fans is that Sam can't defend.
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| Good, solid performance, I also didn't expect to beat Catalan by 4 scores, their only excellent piece of play for me was the first score for them.
Silverwood was inconsistent, Wigan "stole" the ball, penalty given......same situation, Wigan "knock on", scrum given.....without the referee apparently seeing the offence, unless there was a word in his ear?
As always, room for improvement.
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