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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"How strong are Warrington atm that two current England internationals (Bridge and Myler) can't get a run?'"
Hardly world beaters though are they. Bridge is ordinary at best, Myler I'm not convinced of yet.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Yes but to be fair the eldest of them is still only 21. Apart from Shaun Edwards I cant really remember one doing that job so young in the last 30 years.(and even Edwards had the luxury of having Greg and Hanley with him in his early years)'"
Bobbie Goulding had that kind of game to dictate play, just not the temperament!
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| Quote getdownmonkeyman="getdownmonkeyman"Bobbie Goulding had that kind of game to dictate play, just not the temperament!'"
But again he had the same players to help him. Myler, Tomkins and Eastmond all have one thing that Goulding lacked - pace. That's why I always thought Goulding would have been better as a 9.
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| Quote getdownmonkeyman="getdownmonkeyman"Bobbie Goulding had that kind of game to dictate play, just not the temperament!'"
I agree, bobbie goulding was a old head on young shoulders. He should have been a all time great if he didn't mess up at every club he was at.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"Yes but to be fair the eldest of them is still only 21. Apart from Shaun Edwards I cant really remember one doing that job so young in the last 30 years.(and even Edwards had the luxury of having Greg and Hanley with him in his early years)'"
So true.
SE was a fantastic player for Wigan, but he did have this luxury. Not just that, he was protected by a fantastic pack in his formative years.
I wonder how many potential "SE's" have failed because they didn't have this luxury.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I agree, bobbie goulding was a old head on young shoulders. He should have been a all time great if he didn't mess up at every club he was at.'"
I worked with his ex coach at Widnes St. Maries.
His view was always that Bobby (Bobbie) lacked pace and his biggest problem was his dad. I won't go any further on that subject on line.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I agree, bobbie goulding was a old head on young shoulders. He should have been a all time great if he didn't mess up at every club he was at.'"
Who cares?
Fact is that his "brain" wasn't there.
By the same token that he had raw talent, he didn't have the intelligence to nurture it.
In other words, one way or another, he simply did not have the ability. Lockers is the opposite, not much raw ability but you simply have to admire the work ethic.
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| Quote XBrettKennyX="XBrettKennyX"Who cares?
Fact is that his "brain" wasn't there.
By the same token that he had raw talent, he didn't have the intelligence to nurture it.
In other words, one way or another, he simply did not have the ability. Lockers is the opposite, not much raw ability but you simply have to admire the work ethic.'"
I've known bobbie for years and to say he had no brain is utter rubbish!
He had the complete rugby brain, he was the perfect scrumhalf.
He had everything but let him self down off the field.
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I've known bobbie for years and to say he had no brain is utter rubbish!
He had the complete rugby brain, he was the perfect scrumhalf.
He had everything but let him self down off the field.'"
He never had the pace to be a top class scrum half, brain yes, pace no.
Also his attitude at training and off the field let him down (Lee Briers is another prime example)
Here's question for you.
You're the coach in the Challenge Cup Final / Grand Final and you have to pick Edwards or Goulding. Who do you pick and why?
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| Quote St pete="St pete"I've known bobbie for years and to say he had no brain is utter rubbish!
He had the complete rugby brain, he was the perfect scrumhalf.
He had everything but let him self down off the field.'"
Rubbish. If he had a brain, he would have applied himself and gone onto better things.
He didn't.
I'm not talking about a "rugby brain" here, I am talking about the "whole" brain.
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| Quote warrior24="warrior24"Hardly world beaters though are they. Bridge is ordinary at best, Myler I'm not convinced of yet.'"
They're not world beaters but I think they would get a game for pretty much any other team in super league right now.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"But again he had the same players to help him. Myler, Tomkins and Eastmond all have one thing that Goulding lacked - pace. That's why I always thought Goulding would have been better as a 9.'"
I can't agree that Myler has any more pace than Goulding had, certainly not compared to the other two. Tomkins and Eastmond are like lightning, but Myler is very pedestrian.
That said, he has one advantage over Goulding. He's not a total w****r. Granted, he acts a bit like one now and then, but he's young and hopefully his gaffers will kick that out of his head at some point. Goulding poisoned the atmosphere of every club he went to. I've not heard that about Myler. So he's +1 on that score.
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