Ganson hit the nail on the head when he pointed it out previously, if you want to put your arm in there, it's your own bloody responsibility to get it out

Im all for playing the game hard and believe me i do play it hard myself but the is no place in our game for cheating sly tactics that tomkins is using.

So what about the cheating sly tactic of trying to dislodge/interfere with the ball that's the reason the players arm is in there in the first place a lot of the time. How come it doesn't happen all the time to lots of players?

Can you tell me why a player would have their arm in there to start with? I will tell you why, its so they can try and loosen the ball and when it pops out it then looks like the player carrying the ball has dropped it. You dont tackle the ball, you tackle the player end of.

Remove them cherry n white glasses, Tomkins has been doing it all season.



Loved it when he celebrated like a dick & throwing the ball into the Leeds fans.

Utter rubbish, you take man and ball to stop an offload

Christ! chill out!



IMO he holds the player down with the non ball carrying arm in order to win a pen for holding down, IMO that is cheating.



For me he can keep doing it as sooner or later refs will come down on him like a ton of bricks, until then good on him if he keeps getting away with it.

Right, and what's the problem? It's up to the tackler to get his arm out.



These tactics have always gone on. Tomkins is just smart enough to use them effectively.



Is it actually illegal to clamp a tackler's arm or are you just all whining like bitches because he wins penalties for Wigan?

Funnily enough though, it only happens when Sam Tomkins has been tackled.

Yes, yes it is illegal.

He used his ball carrying arm to clamp the other player - a SL ref has already stated it's the defenders responsibility.

Wrong, you dont have to lay a finger on the ball when tackling them to stop an offload do you? Most players who can tackle properly clamp the players arms so they cant move them.





HTH.