I think Goulding was unlucky under Noble. He got dropped after being far from poor as Noble did his usual squad selection then when he was called back from Salford after showing some form back here he got injured.



I think if he gets a chance next season he must grasp it but Carmont only has a one year deal with the option of another and in the 2nd year it's expected (I think) we see him act more as cover than first choice and this may give Goulding his chance.



Dave

Thats the team that i would also go with if the season was to start tommorow and everyone was fit

1. Phelps

2. Roberts

3. Gleeson

4. Carmont

5. Richards

6. Tomkins

7. Deacon

8. Coley

9. Riddell

10. Prescott

11. Hansen

12. Bailey

13. O'Loughlin



14. Leuluai

15. Feka

16. Mossop

17. Fielden

Totally disagree, we should play them even if they're not fit





Of course they should only play if they're fit. The same goes for everyone else in the team.

Like AJ I agree with this, though I'd have Tommy and Deacs playing 60 mins and Riddell 40, unless his fitness increases as his weight decreases.

what is great about this discussion is the great depth in the squad we have, insofar as no one has comne up with the same ideal starting line up. I think it might depend on the team we are playing and the weather conditions. A wet spring night blowing a gale (Hull KR) last year springs to mind we would definatly benefit from deacons kicking. Against the top teams we might want piggy to direct us around the field. I think MM has the grounding to select a team given the opponents as well as the performence in training. GOD I CANT WAIT UNTILL THE BEGINNING OF FEB!!!!!!!

1.Phelps

2.Roberts

3.Gleeson

4.Carmont

5.Richards

6.Tomkins

7.Leuluai

8.Prescott

9.Riddel

10.Coley

11.Hansen

12.Tomkins

13.O'Loughlin



14.Fielden

15.Palea'aesina

16.Mossop

17.McIlorum



19.Goulding

20.Pryce

21.Ainscough

22.Deacon

23.O'Carroll

24.Farrell

25.Davies

26.Tuson

27.Thornley



etc imo

1. Phelps

2. Roberts

3. Gleeson

4. Carmont

5. Richards

6. Tomkins

7. Deacon

8. Prescott

9. Leuluai

10. Coley

11. Bailey

12. Tomkins

13. O'Loughlin



14 Mossop

15 Hansen

16 O' Carroll

17 Fielden



Would keep Leuluai out at 9 all game, he can swap with Deacon at times. After all the Aussie's tend to run with a 9 for 80mins, so it can be done.

So with Paul Deacon now joining Martin Gleeson back at his hometown club, I wonder how many 'Wigan lads' or 'Wigan trained' players we will have in our squad this year?



Shaun Ainscough

Paul Deacon

Martin Gleeson

Sam Tomkins

Joel Tomkins

Lee Mossop

Paul Prescott

Eamon O'carroll

Mike McIlorum

Sean O'loughlin

Darrell Goulding

Harrison Hansen

Liam Farrell

Ben Davies

Chris Tuson

Ian Thornley



I make that 16 as it stands at the moment. So I wonder how many more we will promote?



Josh Vievers?

Stefan Marsh?

Joe Mellor?

Neil Holland?





We could have around 20 Wigan trained/born players in our squad which is outstanding IMO. Not to mention Shaun Wane, Kris Radlinski (Paul Deacon as well), Mark Bitcon, Mike Forshaw and John Pendlebury all having being born in Wigan/played for Wigan in the coaching setup. I can't remember a time when there was a bigger Wigan influence around the club which is fantastic.

1. Phelps

2. Ainscough

3. Gleeson

4. Carmont

5. Richards

6. Tomkins

7. Deacon

8. Coley

9. Leuluai

10. Paleaaesina

11. Hansen

12. Bailey

13. Lockers

As discussed between mini rogue and jonh, the Wigan careers of the likes of Joel Tomkins, Darrel Goulding, Harrison Hansen, Feka and for me Lee Mossop hang in the balance in 2010 which is great because we will see some real effort from the word go id've thought..



February's miles away though

Not bad