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| Quote wiganstripleL="wiganstripleL"Quote wiganstripleL="B.B.F.L."I should hope his wage is going down next year as i imagine he has been one of if not our biggest earners. And has he really made 3 x the busts Morley has.
Fielden is 31 and our most experienced prop yet he was clearly bullied in the game last week. I dont care what stats he has to show if he cant hold his own with the best forwards in the league then he needs to change clubs.'"
tbh if any club goes goes against wire with only 2 props then there gonna struggle. the point im trying to make is he cant do it all on his own.im not saying we'd have beat wire if coley had played but he would have taken some of the work away from fielden.'"
I'm very confident Wigan would have won against Warrington if Coley and Micky Mac had been playing. I know Warrington had a few injuries too, ( Higham and Bridge), but they were less crucial.
The bottom line is the Wigan pack was outmuscled -we might still have won with a bit more luck and help ( rather than poor decisions) from the ref and VR.
Wigan showed they can beat Warrington with a full strength pack as they did in February - hopefully they can do the same in the Play Offs.
I'm even more confident next year!
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| Quote B.B.F.L.="B.B.F.L."I should hope his wage is going down next year as i imagine he has been one of if not our biggest earners. And has he really made 3 x the busts Morley has.
Fielden is 31 and our most experienced prop yet he was clearly bullied in the game last week. I dont care what stats he has to show if he cant hold his own with the best forwards in the league then he needs to change clubs.'"
I am soooooo tired of this 'bullied' statement.
Take pretty much any prop in the game.
Have them take hit ups against a defence fully targetting him with 3-4 players putting everything they've got every hit up because they know the strength isn't there on the bench to replace him. Make that defence be of the size/power of Morley, Carvell, Harrison, Westwood etc.
Watch basically the same result as Friday. I'm pretty confident if you'd swapped Morley and Fielden in the two teams, the same would have happened to Morley.
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| For me I'd release PP and Eo'C when their contracts are up and bring in one more prop with Ben Davies moving up into the first team. I just don't think PP or Eo'C are the type of players needed to win silverware.
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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"For me I'd release PP and Eo'C when their contracts are up and bring in one more prop with Ben Davies moving up into the first team. I just don't think PP or Eo'C are the type of players needed to win silverware.'"
I think for me it currently depends on the Coley/Fielden contract situation, and whether or not Paul want's to be a Rugby League player for the next X years (i'm not suggesting he doesn't, merely that he's obviously got other options).
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| Quote Bill_Barlow="Bill_Barlow"O Carroll would go before PP for me. 4th and maybe 5th choice prop next year. Great strength in depth.'"
I agree. Prescott has a lot more potential in my opinion.
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| Quote Steve Ella's Beard="Steve Ella's Beard"I think for me it currently depends on the Coley/Fielden contract situation, and whether or not Paul want's to be a Rugby League player for the next X years (i'm not suggesting he doesn't, merely that he's obviously got other options).'"
Your right as we can't really let Coley, Prescott and Feka go and bring in 1 prop as we will be back to square one regarding props. However, I just feel that Prescott isn't quite good enough and it's a shame really as he obviously cares about the club and plays his heart out but it's never going to be enough in my harsh honest opinion.
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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"Your right as we can't really let Coley, Prescott and Feka go and bring in 1 prop as we will be back to square one regarding props. However, I just feel that Prescott isn't quite good enough and it's a shame really as he obviously cares about the club and [uplays his heart out but it's never going to be enough in my harsh honest opinion[/u.'"
And unfortunatley for O'Carroll He just isn't big enough Full Stop
Whether either of them are good enough Long term is debatable and decent arguments on both sides.
I'm with Bill Barlow on this one though, If one of them has to be moved on my money would be on O'C.
If a Good Big un beats a Good little un, Then i'm afraid the same applies to "Average" players as well.
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| Id keep Prescott over O'Carroll everytime.
Prescott has stacks of potential, Eamon's size will ever stop him being top class.
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| Quote Steve Ella's Beard="Steve Ella's Beard"Be as confused as you want, but if you'd played the game you should know it's true.'"
Maybe to a degree........Maybe morley would have been less effective in the wigan team due to the overall dominance in the forwards, but to say he'da played a shocker like fielden did would never have happened.
I have never seen a game where morley has been dominated in every tackle and dropped, or looked to drop every carry he had taken up. You could put morley in with the St Pats team against Austrailia, and yes he wouldnt be as dominant as in the wire game because the pats forwards would be dominated out the game, but he wouldnt have been as epically 5h1t as fielden was last week!!
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| Morley wouldn't last a match in a Wigan shirt. He'd be sent off for sure. I remember when he played for another "graced and favoured" team from over the pennines. He was allowed to punch, kick and fore-arm smash anyone that came close to him wearing a cherry and white shirt with complete impunity. It required the good services of Mick Cassidy? (I think) to get him removed from the field (either to the blood bin or fracture clinic, I'm not sure). The most annoying thing was, we lost the services of Cassidy for five matches, But I'll never forget the fine contribution he made to the game as a whole. I hope Wigan doubled his pay for the period he wasn't playing due to his standing up for justice and fair play.
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