You hope.



There wasn't much evidence of that last season, but don't let that stop you dreaming.

What is it I am dreaming of exactly? Not sure what you're on about.







Just because you won it last year doesn't mean you haven't been guilty of being over-confident in the past. The cup defeat v Cas springs to mind straight away for example. Also prior to the the 2014 Grand Final I was reading about how easy it was going to be for you. My point is Wigan fans do have form for making bold predictions and falling flat on their face.



For anyone to suggest their squad is "far superior" than everyone else and "there's nobody to touch us" is extremely arrogant in my opinion and I'm sure if any fan of Saints, Warrington or Hull said the same you'd agree.



I notice a Wigan fan, "Trainman" agrees with me but nobody seems to be pulling him up for saying it's arrogant as well!

We have Escare, Burgess and Tomkins in the backs, losing Charnley and Sarginson. Plus Tierney and Gildart another year older and Gelling fully fit. TL in for Matty Smith is an obvious massive improvement plus we have MM, SOL and Joel Tomkins all fit again in the pack, losing Mossop and Crosby admittedly but gaining Navarette. If we stay fit why not be confident?

Some people have made bold statements, of course they have but I think the message that sits of the back of them is that we're pretty confident in the squad we have.



I won't sit here and say 'we will do this or that' but what I have said is that I believe we have the best squad in the league and if we don't win a major trophy this year then it will have been a season of real failure. If we keep a pretty fit squad (which hasn't started well) then I do think we have the best team on paper but that doesn't always equate to winning things.



If you want a neutrals view of clubs chances in all comps this year go and look at the bookies. We're favourites for the lot so they clearly think we're just about the best team about.

Huge huge differernt in confidence and complete and utter arrogance. I am confident Saints will be there or thereabouts when it comes to handing out trophies but I would never say we are streets ahead of everyone else and that nobody will touch us. Firstly it's simply not true, for Saints or any other team, and also even if I thought it I wouldn't say it because it's arrogant and dismissive of other teams. It's the type of statement that is likely to come back and bite you.

I haven't disagreed that you have one of the strongest squads and are the favourites. However, as you know but are probably too stubborn to agree with a Saints fan

, there is huge difference in being confident and then completely dismissing the rest and claiming your miles ahead of the chasing pack, which simply isn't true.

Not disagreeing or agreeing here but I do want to put something out there.

Are "All" Wigan fans being arrogant or just one or two?



See the problem is you said



Now to me that is a blanket statement that infers that ALL WIGAN FANS are being arrogant and setting ourselves up for a fall?



So instead of accusing ALL WIGAN FANS - Why not reply to the ones you think are and tell them they are being Arrogant etc.???



Anyway

My Two Penneth



We have a very good & Deep Squad

What I mean by this is that if we get a fair share of luck injury wise and all teams end up with the same/equivalent then we will cope with it as good and better than most.



However - If every team stays fit and it's based on each teams Best 17/19 players then there'll be 4/5/6 teams who'll fancy there chances. (Wolfs, Hull, Saints - And Poss even Leeds/Cas).



However history and logic tells you that at some point your going to get hit by injuries and further you go down the pecking harder the more difficult it is to cope with these issues and it takes a lot out of the tank and creates further injury issues through playing through the pain barrier etc. and not being fit come season end.

As far as I see it when balancing the 2 issues together I think I'd go for :-



Wigan/Warrington

Saints/Hull

Cas/Leeds



With Any 4 of those making the Top 4 dependant on Various injuries etc.

He didn't

Reply to the ones that did???

I didn't say he did, but he continued the conversation and we are discussing it like adults. . Maybe you should try that?

Were you one of the many thousands of arrogant supporters at Murrayfield, if I remember correctly Saints only had to turn up that day.

I didn't infer anything. You are inferring my meaning from what I said. I think you are accusing me of implying something but I am being pedantic.



You are incorrect in your assumption anyway that I meant all Wigan fans. I haven't accused ALL WIGAN FANS of anything.

I was there. Was I arrogant and claim we only had to turn up to win? No. But judging by the half empty Wigan end that day I assume Wigan fans thought that.