Wigan did take jammer out of the game and pretty obvious wigan pack went out to target graham.



Even the die hard wigan fans can't deny he is a top class prop and the best we have in this country.

agreed

I think people slightly over estimate Grahams ability. His work rate and effort no one can fault on. On his day he can make good yards and off load like a prop should be able to do. However last night Wigans tactics were superb and they stopped Graham doing what he does best.



IMO for Graham to become an even better player he needs to learn how to run proper angles more and above all not get so wound up when things don't go his way. Instead of spitting the dummy he needs to concentrate on what he does best and work out how he can break the line or create a chance. If he does that then he can become an even better player. Whether he will be as good as Kevin Ward who is the best prop I have seen play rugby league during my lifetime is questionable.



It doesn't help that he continually is expected to carry the Saints pack and that is something that will become an even bigger burden unless the way Saints play is changed.

He's got a lot of stamina and isn't scared of taking the ball in.



However, I don't see him as a massive threat with the ball in hand.



Although not the finest example of a prop forward, Feka knocks spots off Graham in that respect.



And this bit by Phil-P is "nail on head" time.



"IMO for Graham to become an even better player he needs to learn how to run proper angles more and above all not get so wound up when things don't go his way"

For the type of prop graham is, he is the best, without doubt.



You can't compare feka and jammer, feka is a impact prop that comes on and does damage in short spells. Jammer does the hard yards that lay the platform for the impact players like feka.



No doubt feka couldn't do what jammer does, they are not the same style prop.



Jammer is a coley tyle prop and to be honest coley ain't in the same league as jammer but i think both fielden and coley have been very good for wigan thuis year.

Im not even disbuting how good he is. But fact is hes lost 4 (sorry not 3) finals in a row. The best turn up and on form of the play offs Fielden is pushing him for that spot. He makes big meters over a season but when it matters he does not perform at the same level. Yes he got targeted just as Fielden does or any decent prop. Good thing for England is if seleceted the 3 of Morley, Graham and Fieden should compete with the Aussies.

Im not being funny pal or looking for a heated debate but fielden ain't a patch on graham. Ive always liked fielden from his bulls days and seems a very honest bloke when ive heard him talk about his poor form at wigan but he not in the same league as graham.



I think he should be on the plane to play down under in the four nations as his form has been good this year.



Graham needed someone to take the work load off him last night but next year he will have a very very good prop in josh perry with him.

Over the season OFC Graham has been one of the best props in SL aloing with Morley. But for the last month to 6 weeks no prop has played as well as Fielden has. Graham does need a lot of help. LMS is a decent player who will help out along with Perry.

I think saints next year with graham, perry, tony p and LMS will have the best props in the super league.



Perrry is a top class signing.



Clough will also be a 5th prop.

HTH can you be commenting on something you have not seen?? another scouser who's not withit

I'd say it's pretty stupid to say graham caused it when he played for 20 mins after and kicked goals.



Pat or the wigan club ain't said he caused it.



I think it's a case of, you want graham to be the cause so you can bag him.

James Graham was a complete bitch last night. He has the potential to be the best in the world but his persistent dummy spitting is going to cost him. I was surprised he lasted until the end with his dirty play and constant back chatting. If Silverwood had a spine he would have sent Graham for 10 mins early in the 2nd half. Shame really.