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| Quote Mr. Grumpy="Mr. Grumpy"icon_lol.gif
Really? So your saying inconsistent ref's are ok because everyone does things differently? Your having a laugh'"
no what am saying ur never going to get perfect
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| Quote Mr. Grumpy="Mr. Grumpy"I agree with Cruncher's earlier post. VR's should not be allowed to take a look at every little bit of play leading up to a try. They should only look at what the referee on the field tells them to look at. Looking at anything else kind of undermines the ref anyway'"
Why would it be undermining the ref? They both have their own jobs to do, as long as each are doing their respective jobs as well as they can, and only the best people we can find making it to the top games, there doesn't seem to be a place to complain beyond the odd one off annoyance post match.
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| Quote hare&hounds="hare&hounds"no what am saying ur never going to get perfect'"
Obviously no one can be perfect. We want improvement, which would mean more consistency
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| Quote hare&hounds="hare&hounds"still waiting for deano g reply'"
Touch judges do have a narrow role compared with football assistant referees (the name kind of gives away their higher status!).
You may not like it, but this is what the laws say:
"Enforce Laws 2. The Referees shall enforce the Laws of the Game and may impose penalties for any deliberate breach of the Laws. He shall be the sole judge on matters of fact except those relating to touch and touch in-goal (see para. 11 below)."
We have one ref in RL and subordinate officials.
Except in the NRL, where they have 2 refs, but hey, what do they know about RL? They're obviously as wide of the mark as me...
I haven't listened to the intercom but I have stood by pitchside many times over the years and I have not witnessed the kind of high quality and frequent interaction between TJs and referees that you believe goes on. If that happened regularly you would expect referees to pause before making the decisions on knock-on or ball steal to hear what the TJ had to say, instead you have the referee instantly making a judgment call, which is often wrong (or failing to see something, such as missing forward passes).
We saw a lot of that on Sunday and it isn't fair to single Silverwood out.
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| and even if they were perfect everytime u lot would still be moaning
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| Quote hare&hounds="hare&hounds"so everybody who works in the same work place all do exactly the same because the boss told me. never in a million yrs do we all work the same do the same even if our boss told us too because were human and we al;l do things slightly different'"
Given the extremely defensive attitude you've taken we can only assume you have some vested interest in the refereeing community. Given the ludicrous response above is it any wonder fans and coaches scratch their heads when they don't know from week to week how the ref is going to interpret the laws and guidelines of the game.
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| Quote hare&hounds="hare&hounds"and even if they were perfect everytime u lot would still be moaning'"
You were doing well, now you lost the arguement... The inconsistancy is noticable. I hope you are reffing at SL level soon so you can put things right...
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| Quote Deano G="Deano G"Touch judges do have a narrow role compared with football assistant referees (the name kind of gives away their higher status!).
You may not like it, but this is what the laws say:
"Enforce Laws 2. The Referees shall enforce the Laws of the Game and may impose penalties for any deliberate breach of the Laws. He shall be the sole judge on matters of fact except those relating to touch and touch in-goal (see para. 11 below)."
We have one ref in RL and subordinate officials.
Except in the NRL, where they have 2 refs, but hey, what do they know about RL? They're obviously as wide of the mark as me...
even if u have took time to find the rule book u still havent got a clue what goes on in realitk
I haven't listened to the intercom but I have stood by pitchside many times over the years and I have not witnessed the kind of high quality and frequent interaction between TJs and referees that you believe goes on. If that happened regularly you would expect referees to pause before making the decisions on knock-on or ball steal to hear what the TJ had to say, instead you have the referee instantly making a judgment call, which is often wrong (or failing to see something, such as missing forward passes).
We saw a lot of that on Sunday and it isn't fair to single Silverwood out.'"
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| Quote Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy="Wigan28/Leeds18 Andy"Given the extremely defensive attitude you've taken we can only assume you have some vested interest in the refereeing community. Given the ludicrous response above is it any wonder fans and coaches scratch their heads when they don't know from week to week how the ref is going to interpret the laws and guidelines of the game.'"
never ref a game in my life and never intend to because no matter how hard u tried there is allways people to slag you off ,cheat ,liar dont know the rules and many more offensive ones that u may have used
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| Quote Bovrick="Bovrick"Why would it be undermining the ref? They both have their own jobs to do, as long as each are doing their respective jobs as well as they can, and only the best people we can find making it to the top games, there doesn't seem to be a place to complain beyond the odd one off annoyance post match.'"
Whats the point in the ref asking the VR to look at a specific incident if the VR will nit pick at every little thing and watch the same clips over and over hoping to see something?
Take the incident when Hansen (i think it was) was pulled up for obstruction. What if the ref on the field had deemed it to be legal, but then the VR disagrees and announces in front of the whole stadium that it was offside.
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| Quote hare&hounds="hare&hounds"even if u have took time to find the rule book u still havent got a clue what goes on in realitk'"
Ahhh. So let's forget the rules, which support my argument, as does the position in Australia. Its the "reality" that matters. Your "reality".
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