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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Think I would have the mortgage:
After 5 years I am going bankrupt, sell the house, get some residual value and I am saved.
After 5 years millionaire going bankrupt has to sell ground, tenant contract terminated, and as they say in the weakest link. "You go away with nothing".'"
So if Stains go bankrupt they can just sell off their shiney new stadium, bank the equity and all is well
Tenant contract terminated if DW goes "bankrupt" and sells the stadium?
Deary me today.
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| Quote Orrell Lad="Orrell Lad"What the hell does that have to do with anything? Who is funding Stains new stadium?

A discussion about attendance revenues turns into a mystery valuation of a non-existant stadium
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Trying to explain accounts to idiots....why do people bother?
The argument was income, which comes from multiple sources, not just crowds.
And the "mystery valuation" of which you speak is no such thing, the cost to build is £25million, so ergo, its worth £25million, simples?
Saints fund part of it, a sizable chunk coming from the sale of Knowsley Road, the council, Tesco, and McManus's back pocket.
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| Quote wigan_knight="wigan_knight"£18 To stand in that embarressment, you should be greatful you get any away support.'"
£15, if you were on the ball, which is pretty cheap for what was a top class game of RL.
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| im not insulted either.
i was a sceptic about this "big one", but i was wrong and it was a good move.
the problem with wigan-saints games is that over the last few seasons we have played too many and its lost its appeal imo
i much prefer playing leeds now.
oh..and the OP must be one sad person for writing that article......and i thought i moaned a lot.
fellow deserves the title "moaner of the year" 
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"In business terms and profit margins probably a yes.
20000@ £10 ..........£200 000 (Wigoon Land)
15000@ £16.......... £240 000 (Saints Ghetto)
No wonder y0ur club can,t buy any decent players if the club is mathematical deficient.'"
For a start you need to take off the season tickets holders from both figures as they will have not paid those prices.
Another thing you need to do is compared the attendances against the same teams from last season to see what the true comparison is. When you've tried and failed to get your head around that simple principle, I'll show you the answer and how Wigan actually made money on the discounted ticket prices against Leeds.
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| Quote MSH="MSH"Trying to explain accounts to idiots....why do people bother?'"
I'm an auditor, what would I know about accounts?
Quote MSHThe argument was income, which comes from multiple sources, not just crowds.'"
I don't dispute that, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. I don't know how the stadium will be funded or how ownership will be divided up, but having a £25m new stadium on the balance sheet doesn't to equate to "income".
Quote MSHAnd the "mystery valuation" of which you speak is no such thing, the cost to build is £25million, so ergo, its worth £25million, simples?'"
Nothing to do with ticket price/attendance revenues which was the direction of the thread. Infact I'm struggling to see what warranted a mention of Stains' unbuilt stadium 
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| Quote wigan pie man="wigan pie man"im not insulted either.
i was a sceptic about this "big one", but i was wrong and it was a good move.
the problem with wigan-saints games is that over the last few seasons we have played too many and its lost its appeal imo
i much prefer playing leeds now.
oh..and the OP must be one sad person for writing that article......and i thought i moaned a lot.
fellow deserves the title "moaner of the year"
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Only because you win that more often
I thought the letter writer was having more of a go at Leeds fans than Wigan fans when I read it.
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| Quote Judder Man="Judder Man"Think I would have the mortgage:
After 5 years I am going bankrupt, sell the house, get some residual value and I am saved.
After 5 years millionaire going bankrupt has to sell ground, tenant contract terminated, and as they say in the weakest link. "You go away with nothing".'"
But if our landlord (soon to be WAFC) end up bankrupt, we'll get first dibbs on the stadium at much less than £25mill i'd expect.
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| Quote Wigan Peer="Wigan Peer"Surely, as you are all such wonderful suportive fans, you should be able to fill the "Artifact" all on your own, each week, But for some reason, you get nowhere near. God help you if you ever become less succesful..'"
Not the point. It wasn't us that didn't turn up. It was you lot. You bunch of wusses.
What would happen to your figures if our lot didn't bother turning up next time out? We're at least one of your biggest gates. So be thankful we don't give it back to you.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Not the point. It wasn't us that didn't turn up. It was you lot. You bunch of wusses.
What would happen to your figures if our lot didn't bother turning up next time out? We're at least one of your biggest gates. So be thankful we don't give it back to you.'"
We'd have about 17,000 on without any of you and to be honest I could live with it!!!!!!
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| Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"We'd have about 17,000 on without any of you and to be honest I could live with it!!!!!!'"
Me too. 
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| with that argument how come you dont fill you ground every week without away fans? madness....
On the ground basis we put 12 million into Whelans pocket for the sale of central park and the debt was wiped clean by Tesco, bit like will happen with Saints. They put money in like we did, tesco do like we did and then some from the board like we did as Whelan had took over.
Dont start an argument on fan basis as Saints can never win the argument as Wigan and Leeds have been front runners for a few years now.
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