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| Didn't go yesterday but reading this thread it looks like a Widnes re-run.
Poor handling maybe due to different combinsations every week. Poor and cold weather might be to blame. That can come right and we did score some very good tries with excellent handling.
Where there is no excuse are the numerous penalties. Hand in at the ptb, lying on, being sucked in to a push and shove situation, away from home it's an easy penalty for the ref to give to get the home fans off his back. Chester's remarks that he told them to "get into Wigan's faces and pressure the ref" is that getting Wigan to retaliate was his game plan. Trouble is from reading all this that it succeeded and we fell for it big time!
One remedy is for the management/coaching staff to financially fine players who concede penalties. Our pen count against would drop like a stone. Was done some years ago I think by Leeds and had the required effect.
Noticable in the Saints/Souths game that when there was the possibility of a bit of push and shove the Souths players turned their backs and walked away. They also walked away with the trophy! Not easy I'm sure but that (a low pen count) can be the difference between winning and not.
In one sense we are ahead of where we were last year. After those same three opponents 2014 we had one League point now we've three.
We have a massively talented squad with plenty players to return and 27 games to go.
Sort this problem out now and it will be a very successful season.
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| Quote WARRIORCRAIG="WARRIORCRAIG"Woeful statistics yet again. Surely Ryan Sutton didn't start the game and only carry the ball once!?'"
That has to be an error. Embarrassing if it's not. Ditto Larne Patrick - and he only made 13 tackles. Both need dropping.
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| Quote DuaneDibbley="DuaneDibbley"Charnley kicked out at a Rovers player. Refs didn't see it at the time. He seemed wound up all afternoon.'"
No charge thank God, insufficient evidence.
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| Quote fleabag="fleabag"We should never have lost a 20 - 6 lead. But to be honest there seems to be areas for concern right across the park. There is not one position where we could say they are playing well.'"
Granted you scored in the 1st minute of the 2nd half but if you wasn't at the game you wouldn't know the conditions that both teams played in. In the 1st half Rovers where kicking into a very heavy wind. We went in 14-6 down which was a testament to how hard Rovers worked in that 1st half in the face of some extreme weather.
In the 2nd half Wigan had to kick into the awful wind and on leaving the ground listening to the radio the commentator apparently predicted that the wind was a 12point advantage for the side playing behind it, That is effectively what happened. Rovers simply played better with the wind in the 1st half and if it wasnt for that 5 minute collapse in between halves where your team scored 3 tries then the score would have been much more convincing.
Defensively Wigan where quite solid as Rovers forced many GLDO's during that 2nd half.
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| Quote Easty="Easty"Granted you scored in the 1st minute of the 2nd half but if you wasn't at the game you wouldn't know the conditions that both teams played in. In the 1st half Rovers where kicking into a very heavy wind. We went in 14-6 down which was a testament to how hard Rovers worked in that 1st half in the face of some extreme weather.
In the 2nd half Wigan had to kick into the awful wind and on leaving the ground listening to the radio the commentator apparently predicted that the wind was a 12point advantage for the side playing behind it, That is effectively what happened. Rovers simply played better with the wind in the 1st half and if it wasnt for that 5 minute collapse in between halves where your team scored 3 tries then the score would have been much more convincing.
Defensively Wigan where quite solid as Rovers forced many GLDO's during that 2nd half.'"
Also talking about wigans poor game management how about when the game was 6-0 to us we got a penalty 20 out infront of the sticks turn the chance for 2 points down knock the ball on on 3rd tackle Wigan come up our end score and then get on a bit of a role so maybe poor game management from us let you into the game?
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| Quote Oafy="Oafy"Also talking about wigans poor game management how about when the game was 6-0 to us we got a penalty 20 out infront of the sticks turn the chance for 2 points down knock the ball on on 3rd tackle Wigan come up our end score and then get on a bit of a role so maybe poor game management from us let you into the game?'"
At the time with the conditions been against us I thought we made the correct decision not go for goal. Guess the team didn't account for a possible early knock on.
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| Trouble is wigan are to easy to wind up, get them scrapping and the penalties come and then the points which is when losses mount up, discipline is the main issue you need to address.
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| Agreed
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| Quote Easty="Easty"Granted you scored in the 1st minute of the 2nd half but if you wasn't at the game you wouldn't know the conditions that both teams played in. In the 1st half Rovers where kicking into a very heavy wind. We went in 14-6 down which was a testament to how hard Rovers worked in that 1st half in the face of some extreme weather.
In the 2nd half Wigan had to kick into the awful wind and on leaving the ground listening to the radio the commentator apparently predicted that the wind was a 12point advantage for the side playing behind it, That is effectively what happened. Rovers simply played better with the wind in the 1st half and if it wasnt for that 5 minute collapse in between halves where your team scored 3 tries then the score would have been much more convincing.
Defensively Wigan where quite solid as Rovers forced many GLDO's during that 2nd half.'"
THat's true, and credit to Rovers for their tactics, but we simply should have adapted to the conditions better than we did - Smith's bomb into the wind when an easy dink into the in-goal area was a much better option; risky passes that ended up being dropped; those sort of things are OK when you need to gamble, but with a big lead safety-first, high-percentage rugby is called for.
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| Quote Geoff="Geoff"THat's true, and credit to Rovers for their tactics, but we simply should have adapted to the conditions better than we did - Smith's bomb into the wind when an easy dink into the in-goal area was a much better option; risky passes that ended up being dropped; those sort of things are OK when you need to gamble, but with a big lead safety-first, high-percentage rugby is called for.'"
Smiths bomb was embarrassing. All his chasers to his right were outnumbering HKR and he floats a bomb up in to open space in the middle with not a Wigan player in sight.
Smith will come good but he's took so many wrong options this year.
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| I've just watched the 15 minutes highlights on Wigan t.v.
No way did Campese play the ball correctly for the last try, and the pass from Mossop to Patrick, which would have put Wigan 4 scores clear looks flat at worst, certainly doesn't look forward.
However it doesn't alter the fact that indiscipline and dropped ball cost us the game.
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| Quote Rogues Gallery="Rogues Gallery"I've just watched the 15 minutes highlights on Wigan t.v.
No way did Campese play the ball correctly for the last try, and the pass from Mossop to Patrick, which would have put Wigan 4 scores clear looks flat at worst, certainly doesn't look forward.
However it doesn't alter the fact that indiscipline and dropped ball cost us the game.'"
So have I and although Campese is looking like a great signing for the Robins, this was definitely a game we should have won.
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