That's what I've noticed in the short time he's been here. His whole body language is poles apart from the young players chomping at the bit coming up through the ranks. Mistakes happen, fans can forgive that.....lack of effort? I'm not so sure!



At best, he needs to pull his weight (and shed a bit by the looks of it), at worst...well let's not go there!

Possibly just getting used to weather, conditions and settling in.



I remember people getting on Jamie Lyons back when he first came.

sorry if that was aimed at me bout gloating if you look back through the posts you will see that I wasn't gloating at all till I got poked I was making a valid point about a player that seems to be crocked

I was actually praising your youngsters and I believe Hampshire would have put in a lot better showing than Bowen who defiantly seems to have been eating too many pies

You hit the nail on the head - 'he just doesn't look interested'. Another clapped out Aussie over here for the easy money.

I'm fully aware of that. I'm afraid that Bowen is nowhere near justifying his reputation. In a game like today he should have been setting a LEADING example. Haven't we been told what a great player we've signed? I'm not interested in excuses like he needs to learn the structures and he doesn't like the weather and other such nonsense. In a game when others ran their bood to water for the cause he looked like he couldn't be bothered. How do you excuse not jumping for the ball? In SAMs worst games he ALWAYS did something in attack. So far Bowen has done the square root of naff all.



I wouldn't criticise a younger player in this manner. It's just that this guy is supposed to be one of the best full backs in the world.

An up and down game from Bowen - but not the only player in that category (but he does give me the distinct impression of someone who does not look wholly certain he has made the right decision or had the right decision forced on him - I wouldn't be surprised to see him leave before the season ends).

Give the lad a chance to play into form. Top quality doesn't just go away over a few weeks of off season.

Didn't Mr Lenegan say he was a marquee signing? At least it helped smooth over the Tomkins transfer a bit at the time.

It did. But I can't help thinking we got the wrong Bowen. "Here's who you could have signed!!!"

We certainly didn't get the speedboat!

I've been less than impressed with Bowen so far. In pre-season I was one of the ones saying to just give him a chance etc and looking at his highlights on YouTube, but the more I see him the more I think he's just completely overweight and unfit. He appears to have either lost the motivation to play well as in his mind he's only here for a short spell to see out his career, or has just lost the ability with his age and physique.

I'm not sure we need a scapegoat really? We were very well beaten by a clearly better side on the day. Their forwards battered us up the middle and our own errors and missed tackles cost us badly. Most Wigan players put a reasonable shift in.

Jamie Peacock hit the nail on the head for me when he talked about salary cap restricting SL because as he said, the most elite athletes will continue to go where the money is.

Yes I'm disappointed we didn't win but we can be proud of our great club.