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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"Surely it depends on perspective? What was expected of him? I doubt anyone was expecting strong carries from our own 20 because he's not got the size. I doubt anyone was expecting mazy 50 metre breaks from deep or flashy play because he's not at that level. In fact I doubt anyone was expecting much at all really given he's barely played in a year and has rarely played on the wing before. It's just a case of give him a go. I don't think there was anyone suggesting he's ready to be a first team regular. It's just been a case of using our squad given the injuries we have and getting him 2 or 3 games in Super League - test him and see what needs working on. After last night he's managed to get the monkey off his back by getting a try - still some errors so if French, Gildart or Manfredi don't return next week it's a perfect chance to let Halsall have a game on the wing - as he had a decent game.
Overall, based on expectations, I'd have said Hanley has done okay.'"
Oh for sure I wasn't expecting all that, just the basics of generally catching kicks and not losing the ball in the tackle. Is there an amount of errors he could make before you would say he hasn't done ok? His record in a game so far is 5, which most people seemed to characterise as 'solid'. I want him to do well but don't get the point in saying he did regardless of what actually happens, he is a professional sportsman.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Oh for sure I wasn't expecting all that, just the basics of generally catching kicks and not losing the ball in the tackle. Is there an amount of errors he could make before you would say he hasn't done ok? His record in a game so far is 5, which most people seemed to characterise as 'solid'. I want him to do well but don't get the point in saying he did regardless of what actually happens, he is a professional sportsman.'"
But generally he has been catching kicks. He's been more solid than some of our other wing prospects in their youth in that area. It's the errors in other areas that have been more of an issue - dropping the ball in contact a bit too much. I'd expect errors from someone who isn't quite physically what you'd expect for a Super League winger though. Even in his best seasons 3 or 4 errors a game for Burgess was fairly normal. And for Davies in his final season with us.
That's why in context I think he's done okay based on expectations. There's certainly a lot to work on but I just think whether it was Hanley, Halsall or any other youngster in that position I'd expect errors and I wouldn't expect them to be considered a starting winger for more than 4 or 5 games in a row.
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| In the academy Hanley mainly played FB and never really came under pressure from the chasers to the same extent FB or wing does at first team level. His greatest asset was his support play through the middle, as coincidentally was Joe Shorrocks, This is something neither have had the chance to demonstrate in the first team to any extent, especially Hanley with him being played out of position..
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| Quote Cherry.Pie="Cherry.Pie"Even in his best seasons 3 or 4 errors a game for Burgess was fairly normal. And for Davies in his final season with us.'"
You should let Opta know. According to them no player in Super League history has even made half as many errors per game as Hanley in a season.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"You should let Opta know. According to them no player in Super League history has even made half as many errors per game as Hanley in a season.'"
some are unfair, that terrible pass on Friday will go down as Hanleys mistake as he managed to get a touch on it before it hit the floor, he has made mistakes but 2 from the first game werent on him and a couple in the last
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| Friday was a bit worrying from Hanley. I’ve backed him and he’s certainly no write off but he looks a bag of nerves under the high ball and you’d hope he’d be settling a little more, especially in a cup game we were in control of, against lower league opponents. It’s now a decision of keep playing him and hope that shows the faith to build his confidence or just give him a breather out of the firing line but then does that set him back. I think I’d lean towards giving Halsall a game and once a few bodies are back try and get Hanley sorted with a loan deal.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Friday was a bit worrying from Hanley. I’ve backed him and he’s certainly no write off but he looks a bag of nerves under the high ball and you’d hope he’d be settling a little more, especially in a cup game we were in control of, against lower league opponents. It’s now a decision of keep playing him and hope that shows the faith to build his confidence or just give him a breather out of the firing line but then does that set him back. I think I’d lean towards giving Halsall a game and once a few bodies are back try and get Hanley sorted with a loan deal.'"
I agree, he looks terrified, looks very short of confidence
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| Hanley shouldn't play at Leeds. If French or Manfredi do not return then Halsall should given the chance to play left wing.
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| Quote Pieman="Pieman"some are unfair, that terrible pass on Friday will go down as Hanleys mistake as he managed to get a touch on it before it hit the floor, he has made mistakes but 2 from the first game werent on him and a couple in the last'"
Friday was a chest-high pass from Halsall that would have sent him on a break. It was thrown hard because he had no time, maybe forward, definitely catchable. I've no idea how the other two aren't on him. He dropped a bomb with no one near him, and dropped another when he was being tackled.
His first game there was a ball to ground which he should have dived on but he tried to pick it up instead and ended up throwing it backwards for Mellor. Two errors after the tackle whilst trying to play the ball, then one off a Leigh kick. I can't remember the 5th, I feel like it was another off a Leigh kick but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say maybe it was off a bad pass or kick.
So between 0 and 2 total that weren't on him, but that's not unique to him. He's on pace to double the Super League error record dealing with the same odd dodgy pass or kick as every other winger. I'm ending up slating him but it's just frustrating that we can't acknowledge he's performed badly, even by debutant standards. Maybe we've just been spoiled but the nearest comparison I can think of would be Tierney and Russell when they got early games out of position on the wing, they both went better than this.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"You should let Opta know. According to them no player in Super League history has even made half as many errors per game as Hanley in a season.'"
That's because budgie didn't make 3 or 4 errors per game at any point
People make things up to try and prove a point
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| Quote Azul="Azul"Dirty Latics mon'"
Hence why I don't post on here anymore.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"[uFriday was a chest-high pass from Halsall that would have sent him on a break[/u. It was thrown hard because he had no time, maybe forward, definitely catchable. I've no idea how the other two aren't on him. He dropped a bomb with no one near him, and dropped another when he was being tackled.
His first game there was a ball to ground which he should have dived on but he tried to pick it up instead and ended up throwing it backwards for Mellor. Two errors after the tackle whilst trying to play the ball, then one off a Leigh kick. I can't remember the 5th, I feel like it was another off a Leigh kick but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say maybe it was off a bad pass or kick.
So between 0 and 2 total that weren't on him, but that's not unique to him. He's on pace to double the Super League error record dealing with the same odd dodgy pass or kick as every other winger. I'm ending up slating him but it's just frustrating that we can't acknowledge he's performed badly, even by debutant standards. Maybe we've just been spoiled but the nearest comparison I can think of would be Tierney and Russell when they got early games out of position on the wing, they both went better than this.'"
but was no where near him, was a blind poor pass that will go down as a Hanley error instead of Halsall which is wrong, the other 2 in the game were his I didnt dispute it, like some in the other games were all him but some are others and are going onto hanleys stats. The Mellor one was a terrible pass from Smith (MOM) that went behind everyone and Hanley chased back and picked up and lost it in contact, also in that game Smith hit him with a bullet hospital pass which would go down as Hanleys but was Smiths terrible ball
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