bring on 4 spinners

whys that so you can borrow 1?? huaritz is dog iron he wouldnt be able to play club cricket over here never mind the ashes

Given the reports I've read about Cardiff, I'd say 2 spinners is definitely the way to go there.

Swann and Panesar or Rashid ?

Rashid will give us more strength in the batting lineup and Panesar has been slipping this last year

Panesar looked innocuous at Northants v Surrey last weekend. Someone said he's taken six wickets in all competitons this season. I'm not certain that's accurate, but if it is he shouldn't even be considered.

Definately, it might be the only real turning wicket we get this summer so we need to maximise it.

I'd prefer to see Rashid get some 4 day cricket under his belt before throwing him in against the Aussies, he's hardly played since September despite, or because of, touring.

Panesar's ability was always a bit overblown because he's a bit of a cult character, but he does seem to have gone downhill quite quickly.



Swann is becoming a shoe-in and I'd probably see who is performing better out of Panesar and Rashid for their counties before choosing one, if a second spinner is to be picked.

England's entire selection policy will depend on how many overs they think they can get out of Flintoff in a day.



If the answer is "not many" then it'll be four seamers and one spinner - no question. They won't want to risk carrying Flintoff in a three seamer attack.



If Flintoff is good for 15 overs plus in a day, there's a chance England could go with two spinners - particularly if we get a hot, dry summer leading to cracking, dusty pitches.



Personally, I'd be surprised to see England go with anything other than Flintoff, Swann, Broad, Anderson, Sidebottom as a bowling attack.

Me too, I've thought that for a while. Sidebottom was bowling 88 mph last night in the T20, suggesting that he's fit again. He's not the same threat at 82 mph, but at that pace, with the different angle and the variation that a left arm seamer gives you, I'd be pretty surprised if Sidebottom didn't replace Onions, how could count himself more than a little unlucky.

handy andy from the muppets. i will pick our team soon