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| Quote 1315trinity="1315trinity"I feel I have to respond to this. Whatever the problems at WT, they do not fall at the feet of MC.
Without him there would not be a WT.
So, back to the coach or the players. We've had financial restrictions while we've been in SL but it hasn't always reflected in the way we play, so is it the coach? (and god knows we've had enough of those) or the players. My view is that SOME of the players don't care about the club. If you don';t have the care you don't have the passion. on another post I've put time for a clearout and I feel there will have to be hopefully for SL.'"
Who made the decision on the coach? There seems to be this idea that because MC saved the club and has done a good job at stabilising us that he is untouchable when it comes to criticism, its sickening to listen to sometimes. Of course we appreciate the work he has done for our club, he is obviously trying to get it right but sometimes he doesn't.
Being honest, with the situation we found ourselves in at the time of CCs departure, I thought WP was the wrong option for us, we were crying out for an overhaul and we gave it to someone that was not only part of the previous coaching set up but also has never been a head coach, I like Poaching and I want to see him to succeed, its obviously not an easy job but for me we are only going one way now.
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| Quote lampyboy="lampyboy"It's baffling to me why supporters don't get angry, it's like they have been brainwashed in to the MC school of thought.
No advance for years under the Carter regime, he's 100% responsible for the position his club finds itself in.'"
MC has worked wanders for the club, but in today's game, sadly, you need a financial backer who is prepared to millions into the club. We haven't got that. The miracle is that we've survived in SL as long as we have!
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| Stop the 1 new stand and half revamp of the north stand now dig bv up and put spuds in it asap
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"So far off the mark it's funny'"
Not really, he has to shoulder his share of the responsibilty of the blame for the situations we keep finding ourselves in. He's the guy that makes the final decisions on things like coaching, marketing, signing off the budgets, etc at the end of the day. And he's the one who the buck stops with regarding getting those budgets up. Continually being a bottom feeder club means he's getting some things wrong. It not all him obviously and there are always some mitigating circumstances but sorry, he isn't blameless here either as some seem to think.
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| Sorry but what you need is a forward thinking adaptable board, one that's prepared to invest in entising more support and increasing expenditure accordingly.
THE CLUBS A JOKE and doesn't deserve the loyalty it obtains
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| Quote Sacred Cow="Sacred Cow"Not really, he has to shoulder his share of the responsibilty of the blame for the situations we keep finding ourselves in. He's the guy that makes the final decisions on things like coaching, marketing, signing off the budgets, etc at the end of the day. And he's the one who the buck stops with regarding getting those budgets up. Continually being a bottom feeder club means he's getting some things wrong. It not all him obviously and there are always some mitigating circumstances but sorry, he isn't blameless here either as some seem to think.'"
I agree he's not blameless, but he isn't 100% to blame like the initial posters said.
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| Quote lampyboy="lampyboy"Sorry but what you need is a forward thinking adaptable board, one that's prepared to invest in entising more support and increasing expenditure accordingly.
THE CLUBS A JOKE and doesn't deserve the loyalty it obtains'"
Like building a better stadium?
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| To be fair I think the OP has a point.
Now, before I’ll go any further, this is not a dig, or the Carter hate campaign, but this is how I see it.
At the top, he will make, along with John Minards, the key and crucial decisions, but hopefully just off the pitch, but some of these will involve contract negotiations, whether it is extending deals, or offering deals to new players. It’s plain to see that our recruitment has been poor now for about 3 seasons, so therefore, he has to take some of the blame.
On top of that, he clearly put the ball in the court of the fans this year for season ticket and merchandise sales, to be high, to improve the squad. To me, that means we are becoming self sufficient, and little or no investment is being made by him or JM.
If that is the case, what purpose is he serving on a day to day basis, we could have someone else, who wants to come on board, while the club stand still or go backwards
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| There is little doubt the club is going backwards and the Carter no club argument can’t last in six years the club is on a downward spiral. Maybe time for Carter to openly put that club up for sale if he can’t or refuses to invest.
There maybe little or no interest but unless he does this nobody will ever know.
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| Quote Eastern Wildcat="Eastern Wildcat"To be fair I think the OP has a point.
Now, before I’ll go any further, this is not a dig, or the Carter hate campaign, but this is how I see it.
At the top, he will make, along with John Minards, the key and crucial decisions, but hopefully just off the pitch, but some of these will involve contract negotiations, whether it is extending deals, or offering deals to new players. It’s plain to see that our recruitment has been poor now for about 3 seasons, so therefore, he has to take some of the blame.
On top of that, he clearly put the ball in the court of the fans this year for season ticket and merchandise sales, to be high, to improve the squad. To me, that means we are becoming self sufficient, and little or no investment is being made by him or JM.
If that is the case, what purpose is he serving on a day to day basis, we could have someone else, who wants to come on board, while the club stand still or go backwards'"
I imagine probably because as an investor, you would aim to take out at least what you had put in. I imagine, although not at all knowledgeable on how it works, he would probably want to take out what he has put in...which I cannot imagine would leave us in a great position.
If he sold it...I cannot imagine who the hell would buy it currently.
And if he sold it for £1 as has been suggested in social media, who then has the additional funds needed to invest.
Not sure what the solution is.
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| We need an attacking coach and fast. If we have one already then we need to hand him his p45 tomorrow morning and find another one.
Zero creativity and scoring 6-18 points a game will see us relegated.
As for people blaming the players, sorry but I don’t buy it. What they do on game day reflects how they train through the week. No off the ball runners, no clever passing, nothing. God help us, even under Kear we had five drives and a kick. Now we don’t even contest the kick!
This lies right at the door of Carter and Minnards. Poching has clearly not got the answers so they need to get him the help that he needs. No one else can resolve this.
Tough decisions to be made and they are the decision makers.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"Like building a better stadium?'"
Sadly, you could base this cub in Wembley stadium, PT, and you still wouldn't pull in the crowds or improve the team.
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