You 'assume' that the potential requirements were not discussed, but do not know that to be true. My understanding is that a framework was agreed, with the details to be confirmed.



I can't really add any more to the debate than that, so I'll leave it for you guys to judge.

I doubt the present players are privy to all the ins and outs of the running of the ideas of plan B so I wouldn't to too much heed to what is hear say.



ex-players well the grass is always greener on the other side anyway

If i am being honest, i dont mind waiting to hear about plan B so long as it is a good one. If plan B whatever it may be enables us to remain in super league then i don't care if i dont hear about it until we submit our application so long as it does what it is supposed to do and that is to allow us to remain in our rightful place which is in Super League.

I'm with those who say that nothing should be said until everything has been sorted, as it is not fair on the other party to the negotiations. Imagine if you were a Barnsley fan, for example, who might not be that happy with the idea of us playing on their pitch, and you had Wakey going public with unfinalised negotiations.



Also, I expect that the negotiations are different now, because the temporary use may be longer than first thought.



So, in summary, I would say this:

1. As a business, is the club right to consult shareholders first? Yes.

2. As a negotiating party, is the club right to wait until the negotiations have concluded? Yes.

3. As we are in the close season, and the Christmas close-down, will it matter if we wait until mid-January? Probably not.

4. Would it be better to release positive news closer to the start of the season, to build momentum? Maybe.



As an aside, I have been reconciling myself to the lower league, and I have to confess to slightly looking forward to more competitive games and the chance of actually winning a prize. Not that I would prefer it, but it's not all gloom.

One final point though TRB, IMO without the detail we don't actually have a Plan B (or at least a viable one that was capable of been announced at the optimum time, ie when news of the PI came out - as others have said, the club would have looked alot better if they were able to announce very quickly after Pickles decision this is Plan B). What I would have expected the club to do was scope out the full arrangements of Plan B, based on the different number of year options required.

Most of them are ex-players because they wanted to be. As such they have little relevance to what happens at my club. They chose to be against us!

To be fair snowie, the ones from the current players are about the future of the club as a whole, and their plans after 2011.

and the extra delay on NM is probably causing a rethink to the time length at plan B.



I'm am concerned that while Quins and Crusaders can move to other stadiums and get propped up financially we have to go through this crap of fighting for survival, its time to face reality we need to take on the RFL on their under hand ways of restructuring the super league

You can't sign a deal until you know what it is you're signing for. The timescale for sorting plan B is set by the RFL and the banks etc, not by us, and as such, the club will be well aware of what they need to achieve.

they shouldn't have any problem, they should get their finger out and prove their worth.



if their any good another club will come and snap them up if we go down

we wont know our time scale now Pickles has called it in, its looking at least two seasons away from Wakefield at the least

someone going to tell me how that makes us sustainable???



simple fact is it doesnt, we dont get enough home support now, we have without doubt the least appealing team i have ever seen for next season, a bit of dewey eyed sentimentalism may get us some big gates towards the end of next year and then a move to out of town??



but for what its worth, in my humble this all began at the end of season 2009 and the rest is just a domino effect, any fool would know that we have to have our biggest drawing team ever in sl for the year(s) we are away for it to work, and yes it is all down to players leaving, with a team playing well with players that would draw fans we could go anywhere, without that, and we are without that,we wouldnt fill the bull ring!