Just as an aside, can anyone remember how much the Council were proposing to put into the pot for the Newmarket development, was it around £2M?



Also, were the Trust planning on raising some cash via Sport England, Lottery etc?

Yes that figure sounds correct

Hello there DA.





Yes you are correct WMDC did pledge a £2M contribution to Newmarket and also matched it to the now failed Glasshoughton project.





The trust back then was headed by Walker and as far as I can recollect he made numerous vague remarks regarding funding but nothing specific. In fact he was always quick to point out his contacts and past projects and business connections where possible funding could be sourced. However despite of all this bluster he never raised a single penny to the project.

The council have publicly stated they would fund a whole new stadium, irrespective whether Trinity would be part of it. Funnily enough I've not seen them mention it again.



Whilst YC solicitor's have played their card on this I can't help think it's limited to this development alone and the proposed funding mechanism. No doubt they will push planning law to show why they are not legally obliged to contribute to the community facilities but I'm sure the council could revert the change in classification of the site back to greenbelt as the facilities were the only reason it was deemed appropriate to build on it in the first place.

I highly doubt any ace cards have been pulled out of any sleeves.

All the cards have been on the table for a long time, everyone knows who has got what hand, its just a question of playing them officially.

At least positions are finally "official" and not just obfuscation conjecture.

That is also what I understand to be true. However they would need a will to do that and moral backbone. It may als0 be detrimental to a stadium getting built up there, but its never going to happen anyway, that's obvious now. So we get nothing but those greedy sods who have already made millions also loose out, I could live with that.

What's Eric Pickles doing these days?

That would surely only be the case though if the developer was found to be in breach of its responsibilties. Should they throw the kitchen sink at the legal process and find one of the many sub-clauses and loopholes that absolves it of any need to build a stadium then the council wouldn’t have any recourse to change the classification back.



Here’s how i see it panning out. The council actually refuses the application based on the lack of community facility contribution. Yorkcourt take powerful legal action and using one of the aforementioned get-out clauses get the descison overturned after the council, repeatedly reminding everyone how cash-strapped they are, meekly defend themselves in court. Yorkcourt crack on with developing the Newmarket site without paying a penny towards the stadium and with no funding forthcoming 88M kick us out of Belle Vue and redevelop it for something more profitable than a rugby ground, possibly including a MUGA pitch or two to get around a couple of planning clauses and funded by renting to Wakey College. Wakefield Trinity are screwed, Yorkcourt get rich and the council makes a mint through the extra business rates.

Does anyone remember not so long ago, cllr Box being under pressure from the national press & conservatives pressure, he bent with the wind. He held an open invitation to the press & supporters to be present in a full meeting of the council in the county ball council chamber. He made statements that day that he held forecourt to agreements & saved papers he said he had agreements with forecourt to change the unilateral 106 agreement to a full local authority 106 agreement & await further developments above the aggregate figure. He stated forecourt agreed but because of confidentiality saving the papers he could not make them public.

Everyone thought great now we are getting somewhere !

Time has shown lies and deceit -- after the meeting i spoke to the conservative councilors and they said they would monitor and keep up the pressure ! Well here we are, game time now ??? !!! GAME ON

My one regret in all this is that our brilliant owner Michael Carter who is the best owner we have had but listened to others & deflected him from buying belle vue. He would have owned the land & therefore have a ''fixed asset'' to develop or make liquid for funds of a new ground. He did nothing wrong but trust people speaking lies to put him off.

My main point/s to this is use all actions & in-actions including this episode against them because they can be proven, recorded ( WAKEY express ) & council minutes of meeting to show their miss behaviour. !!

Problems are courts are costly & you can win the Ratio decidendi, which pleases the plaintiff - Trinity, but the guilty party being a civil matter still don't pay & close the business change name & still trade.

We are in a strong position to prove & a week position to a positive productive outcome.

I would however maximize publicity to degrade their public standing to ziltch..

Has anyone updated Aaron Bower yet...he seems to be one of the few fighting our corner ??

Wrting is autobiography " Pies i have known and loved"

Guys, just hang fire. The Trust has instructed its Lawyers and at the appropriate time we will launch a crowd funding platform to raise the funding to take legal action if that is what our legal team advise.



Rest assured we will not give up the fight.

Thanks Sandal Cat. This whole debacle leaves an extremely bitter taste in the mouth.

I have a terrible feeling that my ever unreliable car is going to have a serious breakdown on my commute home. I really worry that even though I'll be able to pull off a major A road, it will end up breaking down in the middle of an industrial estate road. This would obviously be a shocking event, and even after attempting to fix it for a while, I'll still be in the middle of this road when the AA van turns up. I truly hope that this breakdown doesn't affect wagons accessing their facilities. I also hope it doesn't happen repeatedly in the same place as that would be awful