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| Quote Wildcat26="Wildcat26"Who made the decision on the coach? There seems to be this idea that because MC saved the club and has done a good job at stabilising us that he is untouchable when it comes to criticism, its sickening to listen to sometimes. Of course we appreciate the work he has done for our club, he is obviously trying to get it right but sometimes he doesn't.
Being honest, with the situation we found ourselves in at the time of CCs departure, I thought WP was the wrong option for us, we were crying out for an overhaul and we gave it to someone that was not only part of the previous coaching set up but also has never been a head coach, I like Poaching and I want to see him to succeed, its obviously not an easy job but for me we are only going one way now.'"
I think that's a fair post. I think everyone recognises what Michael has done but how long can you live off that? 4 seasons? 5 seasons? 10 seasons?
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| Mc resign now
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| Having read all the posts on this thread it seems that even some moderate posters think MC is blameworthy to some extent.
We're all entitled to our opinions, of course, but if the posters criticising MC are right have they got an alternative in mind?
All I can see is a bloke keeping the club in a stable financial position with the least money in SL.
Trevor Woodward who was the Chairman last time we got to Wembley used to say, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.
Trevor splashed money out signing players right left and centre. Ok, we got to Wembley but lost and the team dismantled faster that it was assembled and we've been in the financial mire ever since.
We need a massive cash injection otherwise, it's more of the same.
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| Do we necessarily need a sugar daddy though, like Ken Davy.
I don't know, but I would guess we were well below the cap in 2017, and we went pretty close to a top 4 finish. The year before that in a challenge Cup semi final, albeit, second best.
This with crowds of about 5k, so still under the magic 6k figure
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| If anyone thinks anything is going to change if we stay up this year, then they are in for a shock. By churning out dogger performances again and again and yet again relying on other teams performances to keep us up by the skin of our teeth, who are we going to attract to join us compared to any other team in SL. Which player in their right mind is going to sign for us when there’s a decent chance we won’t be in SL, and then they are screwed finding another team last minute.
I’ve watched the tries and the first one was like watching an primary school kids play on a field, swinging him around by his top. Absolutely embarrassing.
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| There is certainly a poor product on the pitch and has been for a few years. This is 2019 all over again.
The mistake made was giving Willie the job. If he was head coach material, he would have become it before now. Some people are just meant to be assistants, and Willie is one.
We've been here too many times: head coach has a slump. We sack him and appoint the assistant, who enjoys a revival. Assistant gets the job full-time, who has a worst slump and doesn't last a year.
I said it at the time and hoped I was wrong. Turns out I'm not. And Willie isn't helped by having a pack that has looked poor for years.
But apart from appointing a bad head coach, the club is well run, stable, a new ground on the way.
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| Quote Travelling Wilbury="Travelling Wilbury"Do we necessarily need a sugar daddy though, like Ken Davy.
I don't know, but I would guess we were well below the cap in 2017, and we went pretty close to a top 4 finish. The year before that in a challenge Cup semi final, albeit, second best.
This with crowds of about 5k, so still under the magic 6k figure'"
Course we do. Saying we don’t need money and competing 6/800k behind most teams is like an RS3 trying to compete in F1, it’s simply not a level playing field. Sadly you pay for what you get, the tactics of playing ‘Money Ball’ is over, we never built on these decent seasons and just look at where we are now.
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| Quote Travelling Wilbury="Travelling Wilbury"Do we necessarily need a sugar daddy though, like Ken Davy.
I don't know, but I would guess we were well below the cap in 2017, and we went pretty close to a top 4 finish. The year before that in a challenge Cup semi final, albeit, second best.
This with crowds of about 5k, so still under the magic 6k figure'"
I agree, but we can never maintain it. We had a good run when Solomona was here, but once again we couldn't hold on to such players.
We need a good combination. Money alone won't do it, but it certainly helps. A top class, proven coach helps,good management is essential also.
I started to watch Trinity in 1960 and money was available. We had a top class coach and a classic chairman in Stuart Hadfield - result - a decade of success until the money ran out!
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| There was more than enough quality on show today to come away with the points , it’s lays squarely at the players feet , not Carters or poaching’s . Where were the elder statesmen of our team leading by example today , who was the captain today rallying his troops . The Difference today was simply , one team wanted it more , it’s not rocket science, ,all they had to do was get stuck in and show some pride, effort and passion in their game and job was done .
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| Quote Pat Bateman="Pat Bateman"Course we do. Saying we don’t need money and competing 6/800k behind most teams is like an RS3 trying to compete in F1, it’s simply not a level playing field. Sadly you pay for what you get, the tactics of playing ‘Money Ball’ is over, we never built on these decent seasons and just look at where we are now.'"
Not sure what the number of season tickets sold would have would have been, but 2500 adult memberships from a crowd of 5000 would sound about right, would bring in close to £700k, added into that, the money we get from sky would be close to the cap limit anyway. That doesn't include revenue from sponsorship and merchandise.
Hopefully, when the new stand is up, they'll have meeting and function rooms that can be hired out, that could potentially make money 365 days a year.
Yes, they need a backer, but not necessarily one thst pumps in six figure sums every year
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| Quote Travelling Wilbury="Travelling Wilbury"Not sure what the number of season tickets sold would have would have been, but 2500 adult memberships from a crowd of 5000 would sound about right, would bring in close to £700k, added into that, the money we get from sky would be close to the cap limit anyway. That doesn't include revenue from sponsorship and merchandise.
Hopefully, when the new stand is up, they'll have meeting and function rooms that can be hired out, that could potentially make money 365 days a year.
Yes, they need a backer, but not necessarily one thst pumps in six figure sums every year'"
I’m pretty sure we’ve lost £500k this year with the new sky deal so we are running 6/700k under the 2.1 million cap. In order to attract more fans we need a decent side, I don’t think it’s a case of ‘if they build it they will come‘. I feel we do need a financial backer to help us attract better players to not constantly be bottom floating, then when it comes to signing new players they won’t be worried whether we will be in SL next year.
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| Trouble is these backers don't exist.
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