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| Quote Theboyem="Theboyem"Its not that i'm against the play offs, far from it. But i remain a believer that teams that finish in the bottom half of the table shouldn't be qualifying for a play off series for a chance to win the comp. Top six would be a better format and maybe next years convoluted structure with a top 4 play off will actually achieve the aim that a team should earn the right to compete for a title over the entire season rather than just be able to put one decent run of a few games together at some point and sneak in. Others may disagree with my opinion on it and prefer to ensure more teams have more meaningful games come the end of the season and thats fair enough and i take their point. But a look at the table says there are 6 decent, consistent teams, plus Catalans who are a very good team at home and will always be competive because of that advantage. And then theres the rest. So for me whoever finishes in that 8th spot is only really the best of this seasons crap teams, which isn't much to shout about to me.'"
Again I get your point but not sure I agree.
Surely that last bit is dependent on how close in points the last 4 are. Also you're in danger of falling into the trap regarding perceived form. So say one team starts season like a house on fire and then slip down the league to say 6th. Then you get a team that starts poorly but gets a run on and finishes say 7th and 1 win behind the 6th place team. So which of those teams is crap. Most people would say the 7th placed team but IMHO that's flawed. They are perceived to have done better because they got their wins at the start of the season and have remained in the top 8 throughout. Yet in real terms they have only won one more game and have not played well for month.
My question to you is why are they any more deserving of a crack at the final than the other team. They haven't been more consistent, just more consistent at a more opportune time - hence the top 8 rectifies this anomaly.
That's how I see it.
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| I agree Vasty
One reason the Aussies brought their playoff in was to balance the "bye" round, which also applies to the on the road games or the Magic weekend. It isn't an absolute Home and Away level playing field so the playoff gives the chance for the team that finished 2 points behind their rival, but lost to say Wigan at Magic, to show they are as good as the other who beat say London at Magic. They got a free two points which the play off gives them in some part the chance to rectify
The biggest point to me though is that the title is decided on the last day.
I remember going to Widnes back in the day when they played Wigan in the league and the winner effectively won the title, just because of the way the fixtures landed. Was a great game and packed crowd. But equally Wigan went through a stage where they won the title a few games before the last one, which made the rest boring and poorly attended.
The Grand Final makes the Wigan v Widnes scenario happen every time. Much more exciting imo.
Lastly, and probably most important to the likes of MC. Extra gate receipts for the extra games in the playoffs are always vauable to the teams in 7 and 8.
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| Quote PopTart="PopTart"I agree Vasty
One reason the Aussies brought their playoff in was to balance the "bye" round, which also applies to the on the road games or the Magic weekend. It isn't an absolute Home and Away level playing field so the playoff gives the chance for the team that finished 2 points behind their rival, but lost to say Wigan at Magic, to show they are as good as the other who beat say London at Magic. They got a free two points which the play off gives them in some part the chance to rectify
The biggest point to me though is that the title is decided on the last day.
I remember going to Widnes back in the day when they played Wigan in the league and the winner effectively won the title, just because of the way the fixtures landed. Was a great game and packed crowd. But equally Wigan went through a stage where they won the title a few games before the last one, which made the rest boring and poorly attended.
The Grand Final makes the Wigan v Widnes scenario happen every time. Much more exciting imo.
Lastly, and probably most important to the likes of MC. Extra gate receipts for the extra games in the playoffs are always vauable to the teams in 7 and 8.'"
IF (and it's a big if) we make the play offs, nobody will relish playing us.
We have already scalped Wigan, Warrington and Leeds and although Wigan were a depleted side, this form is as good as any of the teams in the top 8 and bearing in mind that, we would probably need to win a further 4 from 5, our confidence will be extremely high.
Fear nobody and lets see if we can cause an upset or two !
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"IF (and it's a big if) we make the play offs, nobody will relish playing us.
We have already scalped Wigan, Warrington and Leeds and although Wigan were a depleted side, this form is as good as any of the teams in the top 8 and bearing in mind that, we would probably need to win a further 4 from 5, our confidence will be extremely high.
[uFear nobody[/u and lets see if we can cause an upset or two !'"
'Dreadnought' for the old timers
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"IF (and it's a big if) we make the play offs, nobody will relish playing us.
We have already scalped Wigan, Warrington and Leeds and although Wigan were a depleted side, this form is as good as any of the teams in the top 8 and bearing in mind that, we would probably need to win a further 4 from 5, our confidence will be extremely high.
Fear nobody and lets see if we can cause an upset or two !'"
No matter what anyone says about when we've played teams if you look at the 7 games since Webster took charge we are top of the form table. From the last 14 points available:
Wakefield 11 Points
Huddersfield 10 Points
St Helens 10 Points
Warrington 10 Points
Leeds 9 Points
Castleford 8 Points
Catalans 8 Points
Salford 8 Points
Wigan 8 Points
Hull KR 6 Points
Hull FC 4 Points
Widnes 4 Points
Bradford 2 Points
London 0 Points
I'd hazard a guess that that is close to the best of any teams run of form this season.
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| It's in the tea leaves!! We will finish 8th and face Cas at the Bungle (or whatever it is called these days!). Cue the famous victory!!
After that.....who cares!!
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| Just checked
The only team besides us to beat Wigan, Warrington and Leeds (either home or away) is St Helens.
Each of Wigan, Warrington and Leeds have beaten each other
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| Quote kinleycat="kinleycat"icon_frustrated.gif'"
Ladies and Gentlemen, please meet our forum moderator KinleyCat. He's always happy to help. Here is an example of a friendly, useful reply to a fellow members question.... "honest question; has the recent upturn in performances anything to do with agars departure or webster taking charge?"
Please feel free to ask him any questions, as he's shown he's clearly approachable.
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| No here's an example of him having to reiterate his point to a poster that couldn't understand.
If you are unhappy at the service I give as a mod, feel free to follow the appropriate channels available to you.
Derailing threads as you are doing now will result in one of the moderating team issuing you with a warning if you intend carrying on that is.
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| Kinley, let's make it simple. I'm not here to "derail" threads, I've come on here, read that and seen yet again how you conduct yourself as a mod. Going back further I see you call another member a Simpleton and I know you're gonna come out with some rubbish about not calling him a Simpleton but I know what you meant.
Make love not war my friend, there's a picnic basket in the pantry so grab a blanket and we can all be friends instead of these little digs. We are all Wakefield so less of the in fighting eh?
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| Quote milkybarkid="milkybarkid"Kinley, let's make it simple. I'm not here to "derail" threads, I've come on here, read that and seen yet again how you conduct yourself as a mod. Going back further I see you call another member a Simpleton and I know you're gonna come out with some rubbish about not calling him a Simpleton but I know what you meant.
Make love not war my friend, there's a picnic basket in the pantry so grab a blanket and we can all be friends instead of these little digs. We are all Wakefield so less of the in fighting eh?'"
12 posts so far, all either criticising or having a go at someone?
Are you Multiple Miggs?
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| I come on regular to read about the club and find you and the rest of your mates criticising others if they don't agree with your views. I bite my tongue but at times (13 times now if we're playing the counting game) I decide to log in and have my say. Surely a forum is a forum for debate and not an extension of the playground where you and the clique can bully us for being different.
Going back to what you highlighted, we are all Wakefield. Stop being silly.
Oh and I'm the milkybarkid.
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