Some of what you say has an element of truth but you're way off on your main point, there does need to be some investigation into the process in order to avoid a developer pulling the same trick elsewhere in the future.



It's been said on many occasions in this very thread that some Community facilities are still to be built at Newmarket and the whole area will still be better than the semi reclaimed scrub land/former industrial site that had become a fly tippers paradise as the hundreds of rubber tyres shown on google earth proves.



That's only part of "what's been achieved" as without the actions of the fans and local residents we wouldn't be negotiating with the developers for the rebuilding of Belle Vue.

Ok I think just a little more than an element .

True the land could have been cleaner than it was but that was mainly the travellers rubbish and if you think it was bad then wait till the rest of the units are built it's going to be traveller heaven , just look at every industrial est in South Leeds .

I wouldn't be surprised if YC didn't go for change of uses and In a couple of years it will be housing

Im happy enough for the club to let me know whats going on when they feel its appropriate. What I don't want is to be told tosh. I would much rather be told the delayed truth than an immediate load of lies.

Im sure that the club as a reason not to make an announcement , and when they do I like many will make a judgment.

It will either be a something worth waiting for, or leave many wondering why it was not released earlier ( whats the fuss about sort of thing )

If its the latter and I hope like many its not be prepared for an almighty backlash.

The problem is that I'm not sure your arguments have any credibility as you are clearly on here with an issue. This weakens the points you make. As far as I can see, you have posted only on this thread in relation to Newmarket. This suggests you have just one agenda and undermines you.



Yes, the community stadium was a vital part of the PI process, but a revamped Belle Vue doesn't mean there will be no community facilities at Newmarket, and I don't think "you must only build a stadium at Newmarket and nowhere else" has any real merit.



Time change. Provided there are no minutes of a meeting that suggest this was always the plan, then there is no real problem. As I understand it, it is the failure of other organisations that has led to this impasse (i.e., the additional funding has dried up). So pragmatism wins out.

Just what is your motive for being here? Mine us clear - to try and promote the realisation of a community stadium for use by WTW. What is yours? Are you a rugby supporter, if so, which club? I'd like to know, so we can all understand the motives behind your comments!



Btw, that's a load of bull about the stadium - the objectors tried every which way to undermine the stadium element. Well guess what, they may get their wish!



If you haven't understood the matter yet, that site, the old pit bit anyway, was always going to be industrial, with or without a stadium. I and my colleagues have done no more than merely help to accelerate that process. The land is no longer GB, and that is a result if the LDF, not the PI.



Now answer the question please!

Yes I'm a rugby fan and yes I post on other forums just like some of you.

So you think the LDF would have not taken the land out of green belt knowing what was happening ....

What really motivates me is to see the people who went to great lengths to put down the people who turns out to be telling the truth.

They are also the same people who are self congratulating "look at me I'm a trustee" the same people who said " yes Mr glover 3 bags full Mr glover and now look at them .

So what I'm saying is there in it for them and will change with the wind .

So just tell the truth ! Or can we not handle the truth?

But you don't post on RL fans as a rugby fan do you, or at least not under this username.



Maybe you can't handle the truth and hide behind a name.



Stop playing games and man up.

Indeed, but we both know there's no chance they will reveal who they are.

I know exactly whom it is and where he lives - I would give it rest with him though, he is not for turning and equally it is hard work having a battle of wits with a clearly unarmed man!



TRB's point about the LDF stands though. The old colliery part of the Newmarket site was always getting built on, irrespective. When the initial submission of the LDF was commented upon by the inspector she came back and stated that not enough B8 was in the plan on the M62 corridor and that Wakefield had to find an additional 95ha to put in the plan. Her word on this is binding, they HAD to allocate 95ha, simple as! Four sites were then put forward by the WMDC LDF team. ALL four were greenbelt sites and the other three sites where all greenfield greenbelt sites, Newmarket was the only brownfield site put forward. This was all done prior to the submission of any application from Yorkcourt for this site.



Newmarket was always the best choice and was going to get chosen for B8 irrespective, anyone who thinks otherwise is deluded or influenced by another agenda.



As for the subsequent planning application, well it has already benefited the local residents as it has forced the building of a new access road, which will eventually become the new through road. Had the Newmarket site just been taken out of greenbelt without the Newmarket application there would have been no new road and no new junction.



The reality is that this site was going to be developed in one form or another, end of!

No one needs arms when you shoot yourself in the foot every time

NOT AT all IA , don't send PM using my name , thats the think about you you really think your smart ! But your the foul who got a cold storage unit !

IA answer your tweeter account ! Who's the coward on that platform ....I can't hear you!