Oh.ok do that then!

Sadly Agar has backed himself into a corner with the full back position. As poor as Mathers was yesterday he is the best option there short of giving young Jowitt a run out. Sammutt doesn't work, interchanhing Sykes and Sammutt depending on whether the team is attacking or defending doesn't work and I agree playing Siejka there would just enforce the notion that Agar is out of ideas and is relying on luck rather than judgement. I believe he had the opportunity to sign Greyston before he went to Dewsbury. Hindsight or not he should've taken it.

Agar also had the first pick of all the Leeds fringe players and got that wrong as well.

He's already proved that a million times over. As my mate said, does he pick the team whilst simultaneously sniffing glue??

We have two fb's at the club - Mathers and young Max Jowitt who's playing in the 19's today; if Mathers isn't cutting it, hand Jowitt the position and see how he goes.



Why the bleeding hell would you play your best SO at fb, and put one of those two actual fb's on the wing?! He's either dropped, or he's playing - if he's playing, play him at bloody fb!



As for Washbrook - I can't possibly see how he keeps getting a game - his value has always been in defence and he can't even do that any more; if we can all see it, why can't the coaching staff? Molloy played 1 game at LF early doors and was full of running; Anakin is a committed, no-nonsense player and tackles hard; there's two better options right under your nose.



It's baffling - I like RA and I don't like to call for people to be removed, but we have a team at present that is significantly under-performing against its potential; that suggests a problem with leadership.

I don't agree Washbrook can't tackle, but I would put Annakin and Tautai above him now, with possibly Molloy if he shows that form again.

All spot on.



Just looking at the stats on Washbrook he is one of eight of our players in the top 40 of missed tackles in the entire division. And Kirmond has made more tackles than him this season so he has lost his his top tackler tag as well at present.



His attack is non existant though. No tries, no assists, an average gain of just over 5 metres per carry (pitiful for a forward), just two tackle busts and one clean break all season, no attacking kicks and just the 3 offloads. He has also made 7 errors with the ball, more than most in the squad. Yet he gets picked every game. Why? The guy offers nothing.

defiantly the beer is better, with performances like that you need a good pint

I didn't say he can't tackle - I said he can't defend; Cas waltzed through him for 3 tries yesterday and Justin Carney threw him around like a rag doll with one arm on two occasions, with the ball safely pouched under the other. It's not an acceptable level of performance for a senior player - simple as that.

Think our main problem this season so far is the pack isn't functioning as a unit....



Individually..... and on paper I think it's potentially the best group of forwards we've had....unfortunately as a collective unit we are being busted up the middle far too often.....only two games our forwards have got well on top and that was our two wins......it's ok questioning the tinkering with who plays full back....who operates at 6 and 7 but the simple fact is that if our forwards are being comprehensively outplayed by the opposition pack it's pretty much irrelevant in my eyes......we could have had Billy Slater at full back the last 4 games and it wouldnt have made an ounce of difference.....likewise....we could have stuck with Godinet & Sammut but the outcomes would still have been the same....



McShane is as good a distributor we've had from 9 and going through every forward who has played for us this year you could give them all a positive mention in one game or another....I believe they all have the ability to perform well.....I've been pro Agar all along.....and still am to a certain extent....but with two former backs as the main coaches are we neglecting working on our pack? It's forwards that win matches for me......we have without doubt got a pretty average backline....but that is the best we could afford....for all the stick that the likes of Lyne.....Fox.....Sykes....etc.....get they have been far from our worst performers in my eyes....



I would have thought in games you could almost get away with a few average players across the backs if your pack is strong and can get on top of the oppostions.....



Anderson.....Smith......Scruton.....Moore.....Raleigh.....Lauititi....Tautai.....Kirmond....Ryan....Washbrook....Annakin....McShane.......



Look at what they are capable of individually on a going day.....they are all far better than they have been showing.....lets fix up the injured bodies....get players back to 100% fitness and we should have a pack on the field to offer more protection to the backs and get us on the front foot more....IMO....

It is very hard to say something positive when you have to experience a game like that. Cas were very ordinary but better disciplined and fitter than us but Wakey were dire. They looked like a pub team. I can see nothing but another kicking on Monday and frankly it is difficult to see when our next win will come.

Fair point. I agree with your point anyway.