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| I carnt believe what i have just seen, im just watching the replay of sts v cas and just seen wellens do exactly the same to mcgoldrick as radders did to bailey and didnt even get put on report yet radders gets sent off, what a disgrace the lack of refing consistancy we have in our game for me what wellens did was far worst then what radders did because he actually used his elbow to strike mcgoldrick.
Sort it out rfl your a joke.
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| Ian Smith is the worst ref in SL by a mile. I'd even go as far as to say he is bent. 2 examples for you.
1. 2 weeks ago against Wire, Westwood makes a clear double movement to score a try and the Hull players ask for the decision to be refered to the video ref, Smith completely ignores the request. This week Briscoe scores a perfectly good try and the Leeds players ask for a video ref decision and he instantly goes straight to the screen. What the frick he was looking for?
2. 2 weeks ago against Wire, Tickle tackles a Wire player and holds him down close to the line. The result is Smith sends him to the sinbin. This week Briscoe picks up a loose ball goes close to the line and is tackled and held down for far longer and yet not only does Smith not sinbin a player he doesn't even give a penalty.
Smith is an absolute disgrace.
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| Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"Ian Smith is the worst ref in SL by a mile. I'd even go as far as to say he is bent. 2 examples for you.
1. 2 weeks ago against Wire, Westwood makes a clear double movement to score a try and the Hull players ask for the decision to be refered to the video ref, Smith completely ignores the request. This week Briscoe scores a perfectly good try and the Leeds players ask for a video ref decision and he instantly goes straight to the screen. What the frick he was looking for?
2. 2 weeks ago against Wire, Tickle tackles a Wire player and holds him down close to the line. The result is Smith sends him to the sinbin. This week Briscoe picks up a loose ball goes close to the line and is tackled and held down for far longer and yet not only does Smith not sinbin a player he doesn't even give a penalty.
Smith is an =#FF4000absolute disgrace.'"
absolutely correct! 
and dont forget him letting burrow getting away with a forward pass to donald, he lets everyond get away with them, hull, let are guilty with offside when there about to kick for goal in his mind
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| Quote ForeverHullFC="ForeverHullFC"absolutely correct!

and dont forget him letting burrow getting away with a forward pass to donald, he lets everyond get away with them, hull, let are guilty with offside when there about to kick for goal in his mind'"
I assume nobody on here will agree with me but both Hulls trys came from looked to me 'forward passes'.
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| Quote Robbo4="Robbo4"Ian Smith is the worst ref in SL by a mile. I'd even go as far as to say he is bent. 2 examples for you.
1. 2 weeks ago against Wire, Westwood makes a clear double movement to score a try and the Hull players ask for the decision to be refered to the video ref, Smith completely ignores the request. This week Briscoe scores a perfectly good try and the Leeds players ask for a video ref decision and he instantly goes straight to the screen. What the frick he was looking for?
2. 2 weeks ago against Wire, Tickle tackles a Wire player and holds him down close to the line. The result is Smith sends him to the sinbin. This week Briscoe picks up a loose ball goes close to the line and is tackled and held down for far longer and yet not only does Smith not sinbin a player he doesn't even give a penalty.
Smith is an absolute disgrace.'"
Spot on.
Plus what about all the other pucnches thrown this season, no red cards to be seen.
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| Thought the sending off was a bit harsh, 10 mins each would have done but the fact he cut Bailey open may have had a bearing on it.
Flip side is ive never seen a ref let so much knocked on ball go as he did for hull tonight. 6 occasions he deemed the ball went backwards when in any other week knock ons would have been given.
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| I agree he is the worst and that's really saying something at the moment. He seems to have no control over games and every game he refs he ruins as a spectacle.
My friend was saying to me yesterday at the game that she believed he was "bent" I'm not so sure, I just believe he's completely out of his depth and always as been. We go back to the same problem though there's no repercussions for them because we only have 7 full time referees and one of them is currently suspended, so every week no matter how they perform they know they will get picked the following week. Somebody's gonna end up with him next week ,no doubt it will be us.
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| Not only was his refereeing terrible, the RFL fine anyone who says anything against the referees. Your always caught between a rock and a hard place. It makes a mockery of the English game in my opinion.
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| Could not say he was ---- but understand he bowls for Parkistan to .
We got away with a couple of knock ons true but Leeds never square marked all game one to the right other to the left yet not once penalised for it only when 3 man marking, penalised Hull for ofside when second man square marker tackled Leeds player.
Gave Leeds a penalty for forward pass when ball goes 3 yards backwards from Berro.
Deffernatly a Parkistany bowler

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| Quote Ralydn="Ralydn"Not only was his refereeing terrible, the RFL fine anyone who says anything against the referees. Your always caught between a rock and a hard place. It makes a mockery of the English game in my opinion.'"
When Crusaders were appointed Smith for our game against KR, our hopes off being in the play offs plummeted.  Then we saw he was ref at the KC and had be replaced by Hicks at Wrexham
Radfords red card was a joke, ten minutes in the bin maybe. Hopefully sending off sufficent on Tuesday.
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| I thought Washy try came from a forward pass. I can't see how we can have any complaints over the sending off; you can't try to repeatedly smack somebody in the face and expect to stay on the field, well you shouldn't, bnut sometimes refs lack the backbone to send players off and put incidents on report. It was the correct decision for Radders to go.
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