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Now, as far as I recall, FCVOICES were not set up for the sole purpose of sorting disabled parking?



HISA is what we need.

The two stickies in question are just announcements of some information, not discussion threads. You want to start a discussion thread? Go right ahead. Or you could contact them directly. They're hardly some shadowy organisation bent on world domination and operating from a secret volcano lair.



You want HISA back? Nothing is stopping you or anyone else from setting it up. There was an attempted reboot a couple of years or so back that failed due to a huge lack of interest among the fanbase at large, but maybe that's changed. Who knows?

and FCVOICES get a voice on RLFANS, why?

do they pay?



or do we just give lazy people a nice easy spot to walk from?

You want us to withhold useful information because it comes from a group you personally don't approve of?





Isn't that a tad egotistical?

Not a group I disagree of, what I dont want is you to play judge and jury, dont lock the threads, let people speak.



FCVOICES are very much a special interest group, not really of "the fans", so be fair aand equal, don't lock the threads, let people get beaten down by opinion, not moderation....?

and I would also add, they are exploited by the club when it suits, and ignored otherwise.

I didn't lock the threads in question. However, I fail to see the problem. The content of those threads are simply listing some information that may be of interest to fans. What's to discuss?



Moreover, nobody is stopping you discussing FCVOICES either in general or the content of those two threads in particular. You can do so right in this thread if you like, or you can start a new one.

In your opinion.



You know, for someone who claims not to disapprove of them you do a really good job of giving the opposite impression.

Disabled parking has never been discussed at a Voices meeting because there is no need as we have the disabled fans group for that which is always attended by John Rose. I suggest you look at the minutes of our meetings as you seem a tad confused. fcvoices.org.uk/index.html

Disabled parking has never been discussed at a Voices meeting because there is no need as we have the disabled fans group for that which is always attended by John Rose. I suggest you look at the minutes of our meetings as you seem a tad confused. fcvoices.org.uk/index.html

You seem to know a lot about nothing.

FCVoices are just a buffer between the club and the fans, they don't do anything you wouldn't be able to sort yourself, but they take away the hassle, fair enough IMO.

the problem is that isn't true, they are a buffer between a specific set of fans and the club, the majority have no voice, and if we dare to proffer it we get banned.



you have more chance of getting a disabled parking space than a fair audience.



FCVOICES are, increasingly, a self serving group, and I apologise to my friends who serve(d) on it for saying that, they are used as almost a "human shield" by the club.



it won't be long before FCV are more interested in welfare reform and DLA than they are the majority of fans.