Gareth Carvell held out to join 'big club'. Wire are not a bigger club than us and yet they seem destined to give Gareth 2 CC winner's medals in 2 years at Wembley(say no more about wembley wins).

Watching game always makes me feel about being at Wembley and losing there.

Tony Smith has taken a team that were not really up to much as usual and got what ALL FC fans would love - 2 wembley wins.

When we get a world class coach to match everything else about us that is world class then we too may get that monkey off our back.

Playing Leeds next week may be a good thing or a bad thing - still not sure.If we do lose to Leeds we always have Rovers the following Sunday.

Youre forgetting Warringtons ability to fit 20 star players under a salary cap.

And we all laughed when Carvell said he joined Warrington to win silverware.

Watching wire fans celebrate Hicks hat trick reminds me of Cardiff 05. It does my head in that we are not winners at Wembley and whilst Rich agar is there I honestly feel we never will. Not an anti Agar thread but just a desire to win the best ever Cup comp at Wembley before I am dead and I have a long way to go yet.

We should have done it in 1983 and that's what makes it worse.

Carvell - good on him

Leeds next week - good or bad thing ?

maybe thats down to the coach making them star players.

Like when Inter Milan and Porto won the Champions league with a certain manager

Take your black n white specs off they are a bigger club at this moment in time

only compared to your little tin-shack outfit . Organise another sponsored march to sign Mason

if they hadnt of sacked Lowes we would still be chucklin

Bigger clubs get rid of a poor coach

others give them 2 more years on april fools day .you are a big club but not bigger than wire

You seem to have got mixed up with big clubs and more successful clubs, they are more successful, and are winning more games and more trophies, small clubs sometimes win trophies but that does;nt automatically make them big clubs, their bigger than Rovers though, I'll grant you that!



We on the other hand have a bigger Stadium, more support, bigger average gates and make more money, we might not be as successful but big clubs ain't always successful clubs but they are always big.....just like small ones!

I'd like Hull to have won 7 challenge cup's wouldn't you?