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| Quote Mild mannered Janitor="Mild mannered Janitor"I feel for the genuine Bradford fans, the ones who have been through the thick and thin. You only have to go back to 1999 when our club was in serious danger to remember what it was like for the fans.
As for the club officials, other than that they should be disqualified from being company directors again, there is a certain degree of karma on the horizon. Wasn't it Bradford, who by actively marketing in areas like Keithley and Halifax, effectively crippled a couple of other traditonal RL teams?
Oh, and the RFL need to be investigated at some length into how this has been able to happen so soon after they "aquired" Odsal.'"
Dont think Bradford got a penny for Odsal as they owed the RFL money, in essence the RFL got control of the ground and the debt was wiped
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| was with friends from Bradford in January and he made a statement that Bradford would fold soon
if they didn't get they act together .I said to the wife coming home I thought Frank had got it wrong .But what do I know .Like to bet Lynch think he made the right choice to come to Hull .Could be going this weekend to Bradford to see them .and the Pub we go in known I am a Big Hull fan .Yes I feel for the fans of the Club but it should not stop us going for players even for this season .We still have money left on the salary cap use it to get a prop or .any cash sum would help Bradford short term
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| Quote Sebasteeno="Sebasteeno"Dont think Bradford got a penny for Odsal as they owed the RFL money, in essence the RFL got control of the ground and the debt was wiped'"
I suppose the point would now change as to what use / benefit would Odsal be to the rfl if there is no one playing there?
Any idea why they owed the ref money for?
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"Administration wouldn't necessarily get them kicked out of SL - see Wakefield last season. In fact their best bet would be if they could somehow 'do a Wakey' and start over with a new BOD/owner. Chucking more cash at the current bunch of incompetents would likely only be putting off the inevitable.
The killer blow regards SL would be if they couldn't fulfil their fixtures, which is looking like a real possibility at the moment.'"
The added problem they have over Wakey though is the ground. Hopefully any new venture would have no problem getting the go ahead from the RFL to play at Odsal, but as we see on a regular basis, you can never quite predict what they will do.
It's the combination of administration + potentially no ground that I think would possibly threaten their franchise position.
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| It smacks to me of posturing on the part of the Bradford Board. There's clearly been some discussions between them and the RFL over the last few months and it seems that Bradford haven't got the result they wanted/expected so they have now gone public to force the RFL's hand in the belief that they won't let them go to the wall. Especially after the RFL stated publicly the value of Odsal as a spiritual home of Rugby League or something similar and now own it.
You wonder how the players that have recently signed contract extensions will feel about it now they know the true financial position. I understand why Bradford did what they did with Whitehead but he has to feel a bit used now he knows that , essentially , it was just a device to make him a more valuable asset and the club knew they couldn't afford it. Maybe he could tear it up and be a free agent once his existing contract runs out?
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| I feel sorry for the loyal Bradford fans. Hopefully the club can be saved, it would be extremely bad news for the sport for the club to go under.
Without new owners you wonder whether £1m in the short term is enough and if in a few months time, should they have a poor cup run and miss the play offs again, they'll be back in the same boat.
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| Quote Marfa Manu="Marfa Manu"Unless they can get £1m together they are gone, if they go into administration they need a investor/buyer or they are gone, so it could be irrelevant what they get for players . The bottom line is the club have been greedy and signed up players they cannot afford to pay in 2 weeks time, now given the option of watching a pathetic squad who may end up in NL1 is better imo than losing the club altogether and they are serious risk of this right now.'"
Yes, it may be irrelevant, but the point is that it can hardly harm them further can it? Whereas offloading at the cheapest price can. Who would buy a club with big debts, no ground, and no decent players to boot? The players are currently the best assets they've got, getting shut at rock bottom prices (or even free) to save money they can't pay anyway would be madness at this stage.
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| Haven't read all the info out there, but is any of this related to the image rights issue - the case against Leeds seems to be never-ending, but not up to speed with it?
And the other question for me is whether removing the 50% of turnover max on player salaries has contributed to the situation.
Very sad for Bradford fans regardless. Feel for them.
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| Quote carl_spackler="carl_spackler"The added problem they have over Wakey though is the ground. Hopefully any new venture would have no problem getting the go ahead from the RFL to play at Odsal, but as we see on a regular basis, you can never quite predict what they will do.
It's the combination of administration + potentially no ground that I think would possibly threaten their franchise position.'"
I'm pretty sure the RFL would rather have a paying tenant in Odsal than have an empty ground costing them cash.
The problem Bradford have is lack of operating cash. Wakey were never in any danger of not being able to keep operating until the administrator could find a buyer; unfortunately that's not the case with Bradford. If they can't find the cash to pay wages next month then they fold, simple as.
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| Some pretty poor opinions on here.
Lets NOT do a DOBBINS special and vote/act them out of existance.
Were bigger and better than that....JUST REMEMBER OUR MERGER.
WE NEED TO SUPPORT THE BRADFORD CLUB (not board members).
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| Ironically it seems that the Odsal deal that was supposed to secure their future may have done the exact opposite:
Quote The BBC="The BBC"The club's bank, the Royal Bank of Scotland, said it had not cut the Bulls' overdraft but that the directors had failed to provide alternative security to secure credit since selling the lease on Odsal.'"
Now that's simple incompetence. The BOD should have talked things through with the bank before selling the lease to the RFL.
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| Quote Kosh="Kosh"I'm pretty sure the RFL would rather have a paying tenant in Odsal than have an empty ground costing them cash.
The problem Bradford have is lack of operating cash. Wakey were never in any danger of not being able to keep operating until the administrator could find a buyer; unfortunately that's not the case with Bradford. If they can't find the cash to pay wages next month then they fold, simple as.'"
I would certainly hope so after all their bluster after buying it. I just hope that if Bradford have to start again that the RFL come to an affordable rental agreement for them and don't get tempted by approaches for the land.
The threat to Bradford is very severe, I hope they come through it. I was just saying that if possible it would be far better for them to avoid administration or restarting IMO, as it could effectively mean them out of SL and I wouldn't fancy their chances of a return any time soon.
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