Radford is an idiot, but Shaul and Lineham have ego problems. Westy and Watts are the other bad eggs.



These are not my words, but I don't think these thoughts are actually far from the truth.



The position we find ourselves is not down to one person alone, it cannot be, it is a combination of factors.

Sorry yes he has deleted it now

Problem is that the four listed are in our top few players and will have been approached by other clubs at least indirectly. They can choose their attitude of course, Gaz Ellis-style humility/dedication/commitment or the opposite, but the latter is less like hard work when you can flaunt other options in faces. This is all hypothetical, clearly. It's situations like this where our lack of man management experience is exposed. Tony Smith or Brian McDermott will have dealt with divas before and learnt from those experiences, and are operating from a position of strength in terms of the whole being greater than the sum of the parts at successful clubs that can cope without reliance on a squad with more limited quality. The four you've listed are popular with fans, pockets of talent, and know they have options, which makes it hard for the inexperienced Radford. A strong DOR would obviously help, but there we are.

Didn't we have problems with some of the young dudes on Twatter a few years ago?

Danny Nicklas being one if memory serves.

Its not a problem with the 'young dudes'



For me this shows that Shaul is dropped for Rankin yet the club are lieing to us about it claiming injuries - why not just tell the truth?



Honestly we'll be in the championship next season - ive never seen such bad management of FC in all my years of support (35 years) - Its almost like the owner/coach are trying to destroy us???

Just what we need for team spirit,nowonder we dont seem to have any most games.Thought radford was going to rule with an iron fist,so pearson said,it gets worse.COYH.

Haven't you moved on with better things to do with your time and money?

Bore the fook off!

What about 1999, when we finished 13th and would have gone out of business but for a RL fudge with Gateshead and a cheque for £1.25m? You are saying this is worse? OK...

They really were desperate times,todays mess is nothing in comparison but it dont make you feel any better,who was it said "there is a cancer at the club" whatever it is there is something radically wrong,and most clubs fans would have thrown the towel in by now.COYH.

You'd think...unless you're selective and unnecessarily dramatic with context.

The potential is there for us to go out of business if we get relegated and there won't be another fat cheque from the RFL this time

We have seen darker days than these , but at the moment everything about the Club is negative.

We are poor on the pitch . The perception of the Club off the pitch is also poor .

As a Club and it's supporters, we seem miles apart .

Every Black and White I speak to is disallusioned at the moment.

There needs to be some changes to bring the two together.

This thread talks of "bad apples "within the squad. I was told a certain two who have been mentioned had altercations with fans after the Cas game .

Their attitude was that they didn't care , and would get contracts at other " better " clubs .

It took for other squad members to step in and apologise.

There seems to be no togetherness at the this present time .

Disallusioned players , and Supporters is not a good mix !