To be fair to Thaler he did call the Captains over and said both teams are messing about with ball in the tackle and stop or he will blow for it, to which the very next tackle Cats did it and he awarded a pen.



Watching it again I blame Hull lack of discipline than Thaler, if we play with the ref we will win more games than lose.



Biggest plus for me was the 4 props who got us out of our half quite easily, they all stood up and had great games.

best attacking display in a long time,

Was it just my early season optimism but do our play the balls seem far quicker? Haven't seen us attack with the same urgency like that in a long time either.

Yes discipline in defence and a reliable kicker needs addressing but to me we look stronger and faster this year across the team. And we could be more entertaining to watch. 10k crowd considering the weather and a sky game was more than I was expecting too. Tuson and Watts, Green to throw into the mix. Biggs too. I think we will go ok this year even if we do end up losing next two. Least wire and saints away will be games out of the way early

I disagree there I thought thaler was poor and gave pens where there were none and missed others.

Pluses:

Looked threatening whenever we had the ball

Some good passing and backing up

Pace to burn

Performances of the new boys



Cons:

Appalling discipline

No right sided defence

Inability to defend attacking kicks

Goal kicking

Kick offs going into touch

Kicking penalties to touch and not making many yards

Your final point really is a pet hate of mine too ,so easy to make another 20 metres wasted every time.

Is it really down to discipline?



I know I'm biased, but many penalties were given for no obvious reason.



It almost seems, at times, that referees now decide when not to give a penalty at the tackle, rather than the other way round.



We suffered badly in the first half - did anyone hear Radford say he knew the ref would even it up in the second half?

Agree with you there, we pushed our luck at nearly every tackle.

A Big Plus is that we have still got Mcdonnell, Biggs, Crookes, Arundle, Miller, Tuson, Green, Pitts and Watts (Plus youngsters) to push their way into the team.



Wouldnt be too surprised to see a departure or two?!

Spot on in every respect. And it's not about bias I see the same thing in other games watching as a neutral.

They weren't at first, but they got much better when Heremaia came on. Paleaaes's in the build up to our first try seemed to start us off.

Me too. What I really can't understand is why we use a different kicker on either side of the pitch when Rankin was making more distance than Horne every time. Just get Rankin to jog across 20 yards and do the lot.