How did Cunningham do?

That's not what a LOT of Hull fans where saying just a few months ago.

I paid him to do that.



I was genuinely disappointed for you when I saw the result.

you forgot to mention Trent Robinson who turned a bunch of dejected losers finishing bottom of the league into a good competitive side last season (winning Coach of the Year) and reinforced the improvements this season with a really strong side - ok, they probably won't win anything but at least they are playing good RL and giving entertainment and value for money to their fans and hopefully to fans from other clubs.



Success doesn't have to be projected over a three year period, how can it be with so much player movement & injuries etc but Tony Smith and Michael Maguire proved recently it can be done short term so why this 'three year' nonsense ?



Today is today, who cares what happens in three years ?

Didn't Smith go out and pay fee's for some of the UK's best talent? Didn't Maguire sign 3 first teamers from Melbourne?

At the start of the season most people suggested 6th and a play off win would be about right for this season. That's still very possible. I just don't understand what's changed to fans' expectations.

You're 2 points off 5th (and Leeds have the welcome distraction of a cup final), Bradford are fighting for their existence first, play-offs second and Hudds are in freefall pretty much.



If you can get some players back and turn your form around it could still be a [igood[/i transitional year. Decent looking run in you have late in the season, too.

Didn't Warrington finish tenth in Smith's first season? He was appointed in March 2009.

We've took points off Wire, Saints, Leeds and Hudds. We've dropped about 8 points in the last 10mins of games.



I don't think we've got backwards. This year was always going to be unsteady with all massive changes we've had.

Exactly.

We are three points up on this stage last season and need six points to beat 2011's total. We are four points down on what we had after 20 rounds in 2010 and need ten points to match that season's final total. We've already got more league points than we finished with in 2008 and 2009.

Its not the league position that bothers me and seemingly a few others, its the completely dire brand of rugby we play that simply hasnt changed since Agar and thats with Gentle now having twenty games to atleast make some difference.