They are both very average backs,so toss the coin.

In the same game both players mark up man to man, Youngquest stands Whiting up and gets round his outside. Whiting 1 Turner 1. That wasn't an isolated incident either.

Also, sliding as a defence doesn't start with the centre, if he gets drawn in its because his inside man has rung him in. The only time I blame a centre is when they come out the line, something Turner rarely does.



ATEOTD Whiting is performing very well in the back row, Turner wants to play back row also but is down the pecking order. Because of this he'll be played at Centre (where he obviously doesn't prefer) and even though I think he's a better centre than Whiting he'll get slated on here for any minor mistake he'll make.

It would be Whiting 2, Turner 0, I think you might be missing my point. Also, neither of us are claiming that Whiting is a winger. This is a bit of a sidetrack, as I don't see any point in comparing Turner as a centre to Whiting as a winger. The point I was trying to make was that Turner's mistakes aren't just about missed tackles, and that there are plenty of times he is at fault which don't result in a statistical mark against his name, hence the 'strange' statistics that don't show the full extent of his weaknesses.







I know it doesn't, I didn't say Turner was always the cause. I was saying that it was a contributing factor in why the winger would rack up missed tackles in our team last year. But while we're on about Turner's part in the sliding defence, he did find himself much closer to his inside teammate than his outside one too often IMO.







I think that's a very narrow criteria for a centre to be at fault. In fact I just plain think you're wrong.







Not too long ago Turner wanted to play centre, is this change simply because he's not fancied there now? I think he's a better attacking centre than Whiting but an overall inferior one (the same story as Craig Hall). I don't think either of them are quite as good as I'd like us to have though.

Whiting has earned his back row place this year. Turner hasn't regardless of whether he has had the chance or not. As such Whiting should retain that position. If you play well enough you should retain your jersey in the position in which you're playing well. If Whiting's back row performance slips Turner should be in contention for it. If Yeaman doesn't play for a few weeks Turner or a younger player goes in at centre. That then becomes their chance to perform. Last year is irrelevant.

If Yeaman is out then Turner will play centre, Whiting is already playing backrow so I doubt he would be moved now.



Turner started at centre against Rovers in pre-season.

This.



Simplez.

on Humberside Gentle said Yeamo is playing although there is a doubt with someone else but he wouldn't say who.

Tickle, but Aspinwall and Martyn also have knocks.

Turner straight in for Yeamo if he can't play. The real player we need in contention is Heremaia.

Yeamo is playing

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