Turner looked uninterested at times today

Turner going for the big play again at the end, giving Sts another set (4th tackle, I think) which allowed them to get in the position for the attacking kick, from which they scored the match equalling penalty.



Two weeks in a row (can't comment on London game cos I wasn't there), where his high risk play has not come off and cost us points.



Think people are being unfair on Manu tho. Well policed by Sts, tried hard, just never came of for him.

Turners just a dumb player.

However, if he caught the ball he would have been a genius.

As did most of the team. Infact no one stood out today.

A very good point, but I play on percentages.



Whiting gets it right most times, hence a clever player.

Yep and he scored some beuts this season....but he is leaving so he has to be dumb

If he had caught the ball he'd have been lucky to get away with the mistakes he made. This is exactly the problem with Turner, he's good for a few games bad for a few.

I see your point, but I wouldn't say he's a dumb player. It would have been a game changing move, which if it had came off would have won us the game and we would all be crying again about him leaving.



FWIW, I thought he had a pretty poor game today. Crooks, on the other hand, is looking good.

Cost us 3 points in two weeks, defensive deficiencies evident while Agar was in charge are creeping back into his game.



He was nowhere near the team at the start of the year, got a chance through injuries and took it, but he's been poor of late.

Going to really miss moa. Only forward who runs and defends with any aggression

I would, he doesn't seem to learn and makes the same mistakes over and over.