Who would you say in the last 30 yrs been the hard man to wear the black and white jersey!

Can't comment for 30 the years as have only been watching us for 20, but my stand out is King Kurt.

In my time of watching Widnes it has to be King of Hurt Kurt for me..



But this is a decent website for all Biff related matters. Some fantastic stories concerning some of our great players on here too.



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Has to be Kurt, earlier than him Big Jim and further back Vinty who was skillful as well as hard.

Rich history here for tough men. In no particular order;



Kurt

Mills (Jim)



Gorley

Grima

Hogan

Tamati

What about Dave Allen

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What about Paul Rowley? Oh no he was just a spineless, cheap shot, house!

Jim gannon , Barry Mac , Red chemic think your from my era , remember wire v widnes an Davidson ko Joe grimas front teath go missing some tough men Hogan breaking mal reillys jaw with elbow got 13 matches for that

Remember it well mbb. I can recall Davidson kicking off at Naughton Park and Paul Hulme piling into him. The Hulmes weren't classic 'hardmen' but were tough nuts who would never take a backward step - whether that marks them as hardmenwho knows - it puts it as a distinct possibility.

haha in the Mike Gregory autobiagraghy he says the Humes were Dirty B------s but you would want them in the trenches with you...

Gary Freeman rated them as the dietiest players he'd encountered - he was a nark too!!!!

Paul was a Good player and is a very nice lad you obviously dont know , i to dont know Dave Allen ,but i know people who do

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