The only things poor at the club at the moment is the first team results / performances. No-one has missed that nor said otherwise.



However trying to right off evey aspect of the club as some have done is beyond ludicrous. Fans of Widnes are never happy. Sometimes that's a positives however in times when the club needs support it's a major weakness.

Mate I see what you are saying and I would like a quality coach too.Someone like Noble?Never will be a fan of Betts.

Which was sort of the point of my replies.



Nothing against Lucifer but just fed up of reading and hearing the same old thing. Slagging off at the match or on here is exactly the same counterproductive rubbish that will drive fans away, the same as poor performances do.



It ain't gonna get better overnight and we ain't gonna win a Grand Final any time soon. It's a long haul but if Betts goes today, it won't make a lot of difference for months or even to next season unless we can recruit class acts now - guess what - we ain't gonna get any class acts any time soon!

the OP serves no purpose really what did you honestly expect in your first season you will finish bottom like a lot of people predicted and then come back stronger next season with better players same as all clubs who come up

BINGO





I don't mind people having a pop in the aftermath that's what fans do! It's just when it drags on all week and get's to levels of people telling others not to bother going (WTF). Some people seem to think by reducing our fan support by them and their mates they are doing the club the world of good... ridiculous!

It's worth pointing out that less than five years ago we didn't even have a club. Now we're in Super League. I'm quite happy with how things are going as it happens.

4 games into the season and people running the club down! I just don't get it. Seriously,did these people expect much more this early cos I know I didn't. It's nobody's fault if better players were not available/didn't want to come here,we've seen some signs of improvement of late so let's stick with the team and we'll get there,may take a while but we WILL!

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Whats happened to bustinytinyballs or whatever her name is, dosent seem to post much these days. Was always good for a sound post...?

This.

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Or do they?



There are also a lot who believe that SO'C and his team --- who got us back into SL, incidentally --- are heading in the right direction.



The fact that we have not won yet, and the manner of our losing against Wakefield and Huddersfield was shocking, should examine the improvement we showed in the second half against Salford and the way we played against Leeds.

Do you include SO'C?



The fact that you predicted a poor performance last year does not alter my belief that if we had won the first four matches you would have been saying that it is just a flash in the pan.



Don't think you are being shot down, but just disregarded as one of the few permanent doom and gloom brigade.