Only Widnes fans have posted on the thread so far so no need to remove my friend.

Lets look at Widnes/Fax/Leigh, will give marks out of 10 at the end of each group





[uSponsorship[/u



Widnes - Stobarts



Halifax - Halifax home insurance thingy me bob



Leigh - JR (local pie seller)???



Widnes - 8/10

Halifax - 7/10

Leigh - 4/10



[uGround[/u



Widnes - Stobart Stadium all seater



Halifax - Half good half bad, once finished will look decent enough



Leigh - Cracking sports Village



Widnes - 8/10

Halifax - 7/10 (if finished)

Leigh - 9/10



[uSupport[/u



Widnes - average at around 3,800



Halifax - average at around 2,400



Leigh - average at around 1,900



Widnes - 6/10

Halifax - 5/10

Leigh - 4/10



[uChairman[/u



Widnes - Steve O'connor - Millionaire business man who works for a huge company



Halifax - Michael Steele - apologies but dont know anything about him



Leigh - Arthur Thomas - Millionaire??????



Widnes - 8/10

Halifax - 6/10

Leigh - 6/10



[uYouth setup/scholarship/community[/u



Widnes - Run at all ages and have award winning community programme. 6 home grown in squad



Halifax - No academy at any level but decent community work.



Leigh - Reserve side but no academy or foundation, award winning community work. Numerous home grown in squad





Widnes - 8/10

Halifax - 4/10

Leigh - 6/10



[uProfessional club setup/Media prescense[/u



Widnes - Up to date official website, and sky media bitches in Terry Oconnor and Paul King Cullen. Correct people in place at the club.



Halifax - Up to date website, would need to employ more staff in key positions within the club to advance.



Leigh - Not a bad website but can be improved, probably need a couple more key individuals added to the club.





Widnes - 8/10

Halifax - 6/10

Leigh - 6/10















[uTotals[/u





Widnes 46

Halifax 35

Leigh 35

I can't say I agree with all your marking but to be honest come 2011 a lot could change and you must realise that.



If Leigh get relagated the gamble of bulding a team from next year will of failed, if we stay up,we will be 100% stronger next year on many fronts.



The French bid will definately be a strong one and Gateshead have a lot of backing.



Widnes are in the box seat but as you know only too well the RFL are anything but fair in whatever they do.



I just wish everyone would enjoy a great League that we are in at present,the speculation about Franchising drives me nuts.

Vikingman - you should be on the selection panel ! A good effort there, nice bit of research and no shocks. Well done - a better "licensee" than Al Murray

even when that stand at fax is finally complete, the shay still could never be classed as a "premier" sporting venue, the seating down the side and both areas behind the sticks lack the basic facilities such as toilets and food outlets etc.

Jesus! Get a room!



It's not Widnes you love, it's vikingman!

He's a quality poster and i respect him enourmously. He's a beacon of light in a dull word. He is a demigod, an apostle, an example to us all on how we should post on here. In fact, if i didn't know any better, i'd say he was Jesus Christ risen again.

My message would be simple in terms of the recent news.



If your ground aint built then you can drop down until it is and then re-apply.



Widnes/Fax/Leigh in



Cas/Wakey/Salford out.







2015



Cas can come back with open arms

The irony is I think most Widnes fans seem to appreciate the Championship more and seem less bothered about being rejected next time.



Of course we all want it but I think because we've been burned and realised that the Championship isn't so bad after all that we're less desperate for it than we were.

Very good assessment there



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The away stand and old seating area do you're right, but 'premier sporting venue' and what the RFL want will all be in the new stand with its directors boxes, lounges etc etc. Plus if we need to spruce up the tolilet in those 2 stands and get an extra food outlet, am sure thats a quick an easy job tbh.



Without trying to be biased, i genuinely think The Shay will be one of the, not best stadiums persay, but most ideal for rugby league a bit like Warrington, but with crap lavs basically haha. It's got 2 good, deep standing areas, a modern all seater stand with everything, and a basic seater stand the other side.



Basically i disagree with you're point to the certain extent it's 'premier' in the eyes of RFL ( i think), however it's clearly lacking in some departments