Watched the game back when I got in last night and thought how embarrising Denis betts looked stood in box drinking a cup of tea from a mug. I was half expecting the biscuits to come out and start dunking them.

I was pleased for Denis today ,think he enjoyed this game which we was never going to win but so so close we've had a torrid time this year but glad to see him smiling well if I say it my self I loved ut showing a great bit of character

So impressed with Owens and Craven yesterday. Owens positional play was top class and Cravens ability to land a bomb about a yard short of the try line was crazy!



It's players like those that Widnes need to build a side around.

That's part of the reason our first team have been so over the last few seasons. The club have had a heavy emphasis on youth (cue littlrich)

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To think that some bloke in front of us was slagging Craven off and shouting for him to get taken off the field against Bradford last week is amazing. He was quietened down with a flea in his ear!



There are some good young lads at the club but it's hard to throw too many in at once when the team are getting 'pummelled' so often.



Just like to echo the comments re; Dennis Betts. Glad he seemed relaxed and seemed to enjoy the effort. I don't particularly want him out, I just want someone who can get yesterdays effort out of the team week in week out.

I have been a big critic of Betts but good to see him smile.He does need to sort our defence out and possibly a defence coach assistant is required.With Scott Moore gone we may improve.Jack Owens and Craven I hope play regular.Only improve with game time.

So, everyone's warming to Denis





Next Friday you'll be baying for his blood.





Good effort though yesterday. Need that "30 something" defence sorting though.

What people need to remember is that Widnes are decimated with injury and have been all season. The likes of Owens, Craven to a lesser extent Mullaly would normally have been eased in gently but at the moment are playing every week. Owens wasn't even playing championship rugby last season.

Right on Cue

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Always like to keep my hand in on my second favourite club

I'm certainly not just yet!



We played well against a Saints outfit that looked disinterested and thought they had it in the bag. Put it this way, Saints have only shipped in 38 points once in the last 2 years. Is Widnes's attack really that good to inflict that level of damage or were Saints not playing at as intense a level as they usually would?



Friday will again tell us a lot and I won't even start getting excited until then. If Saints up their game and give us a predictable battering then it was as I suspect. If we can match them again for periods of the game and keep them to less than 20 points then we might have turned the corner.

Absolutely spot on mate. Injuries have played a far greater part in our season so far than people are giving credit.

Correct. Don't get me wrong we have been bad (a lot) but with the injuries we have had it's no massive shock tbh. We have had as many injuries as anyone else and 3 players out for the year after just our third game!



People will say 'you should have the squad' but in one years recruitment the squad was never going to be strong.



Good to see Craven getting better and more confident week by week and Owens just seems to make the first team step up look easy at times for a 17 year old!