Salter is still only a young player starting off his career & getting better with each game, defending very very well has put out some very well worked passes to his wing. Kris & he will be the starting pair & Minns will have to be good to get in ahead of them. Salter is not a flashy extovert he just gets on with his job & is just what we need.

Let's see how Minns does against salter when Rovers play Sheffield. I like salter, good defender, is improving his attack. Backs himself more these days.

Are they loaning him from Leeds on alternate weeks to Fev then?

One thing that Salter has really added to his game this year is a quick tap and from penalties, he invariably get's over the gain,line to make thirteen or fourteen metres.



His defence also remains decent, if he can continue to improve that aspect of his game he should have a reasonable career, not a flashy player but there should always be a place for a defensive centre.



As long as Sio is here, all he needs to do is put him a bit of space and his job's done.

Yea that's what they do, dint you know? Tbh I had a feeling after I posted that he did play for fev. Just couldn't be bothered to check.

We need a good prop, a good loan prop, a fast and bullocking back rower, a right centre and Lunt to commit.



To measure how good Liam Salter is or isn't at right centre, here are the starters in his position for this year's top 4 SL teams. Watkins, Percival, Gelling, Cudjoe.

To illustrate what I mean by a good prop, here's 4 from the same teams that set the benchmark in this position. Peacock, Walmsley, Crosby, Crabtree.

Examples of bullocking back rowers from the same teams. Cuthbertson, Ablett, Joe Greenwood, Vea, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Tautai, Farrell, Ta'ai, Ferres.



Happy with James Greenwood at prop on loan for another year.



Would be interested to know how you rate our squad against the above players.



Also Goulding was justifiably our right centre for the early part of the season. Now Salter. Hmmmmm. Big decrease in class.

You should know that factual inaccuracies are food & drink to pedantic gets like me!

There's nout wrong with wanting to look clever on here haha

Have i missed something on welham? Has he been announced as definitely being with us next year? Just thinking with minns and rumours of thornley coming maybe they could be our starting centres next year

The one thing in common with the above mentioned is that none are or will be available to rovers, start by naming players who are available to us remembering we have no overseas places left. & Salter is a very good player as good as Whelam who is getting back to the form that got him an International call up a couple of seasons ago. Our backs have not been a problem this season it is size up front we have lacked ilustrated by having to play Laroyer way out of position most of the year.

Thanks BR



Methinks you are slightly missing the point of my post. The thread title is EVOLUTION.



To evolve and succeed, we need to aspire to the standards of the top 4 in SL, hence naming incumbents as a benchmarking exercise. I am unable to give you names of players that are available to fill my notion of what I perceive as our pressing needs, as it's the paid responsibility of Mike Smith together with Chris Chester to handle that.



My point is simply this. There is a common denominator in the attributes the players in the top 4 teams I listed possess. Alongside them, I feel some of our players currently in those positions don't measure up. I am sure I am not alone in these thoughts.



I have purposely left coaching weaknesses to one side for now.

This is what annoys me, Salter is not a very good centre. People just think he is because he's home grown from academy. If salter was Australian I very much doubt people would be saying he's a very good centre. Just those massive red and white tinted blinkers. Our youngsters are pretty terrible to what their is around the world. Let's not forget Albert Kelly is 24! Compare Salter to every one of the teams above us starting right centres there's a massive difference. Same with out backrow which is just laughable. Horne and Mccarthy/Larroyer vs Ellis/Mini, Westwood/Laithwaite(poor but as a duo still better), Taia/Whitehead, Ferres/Hughes or Taia etc etc. Horne isn't good enough to be a starting second rower for a top 6 side no way never mind the best second rower at the club.