Although the last few games have been disappointing and most of the season has been at best a bit of a foregone conclusion I just cant see the parallels with Leigh 2015.



The were blowing teams away and playing expansive exciting rugby, come the play offs when ball retention became more critical they blew up. The 2016 Leigh team were a more drilled side with lots of SL experience and that saw them through

That's the thing we haven't had to be outstanding in this league we haven't put in an 80 minute performance because we really haven't had to it was job done against London so the players dropped off a bit I'd be worried if Leigh or Salford would have hammered us but they didn't I think the players prefer to play SL opposition as they can play the game how they want as oppose to the away game to swinton when they just tried to spoil and fight

some good points both ways on this one , but in my opinion srum half is a big problem to us and has been all year, in hindsight we should have tried to recruit a top notch half from day 1 (easier said than done I know) instead of loading up with second rate props ,weve been fine at hooker ,although it is harder to get to drop a level we do give out generous contracts to some average players

Agree 100% The only reason I can think of that we play the whole season with two half's who are not KR players & if we believe the story's are not part of the clubs future plans is because we just can't produce them ourselves & they are just not out there in the first place. Maybe Atkin & marsh will come good but at the moment they are just learning the game. As many have said we need a steady heads at 6 & 7 in the next few weeks but we just don't have them. I do rate Abdul & I hope we gat him back soon. Let's take care of next year later.

I've said it before and would love to be proved wrong, but Marsh in the halves, no thank you. Anonymous in too many games. Atkin has had one game in a beaten team. I know we don't have time to wait and see, and agree that we miss Abdull badly, but we have what we have.

Hope the team have some fire in their bellies when the 8,s start and give 80 minute performances. The crowd can play their part and make it hell for the opposition, just hope the team do as well and give no quarter to the enemy.

COYR!!

That's a fair assessment of our 2015 vs 2016 sides. Though I think our side last year evolved as the year went on. Chase and Brierley out and Drinkwater in gave us that extra direction from half back. That and Ridyard showing enough form to keep Burns out the team is what ultimately got us through.



Personally I don't think we're as strong this year as last. Maitua or Worthington haven't been effectively replaced down our left edge, and we seem light in the front row with Weston's retirement and Acton's "enforced break".

You're also going into it with a slightly different set of pressures on you. it'll be interesting to see how it plays out , I personally think Leigh look stronger both physically and mentally than Widnes.

Except when we play Widnes, they've beaten us easily twice this year.



yes, entirely different pressures this year. Though one point I've not seen made much, is we were garbage for large parts of last season. Was only when we beat Salford that there started to be some belief we could do anything. I'd say your first game against Super League opposition is vital.

The problem been, is unless the team performance starts to improve quickly, the mood among the fans is low and they will turn against the team instead of supporting them.

People will have someone p155 up their back and be told it's raining once to often.

We pay to be entertained and expect 100% commitment from the players, if they don't want to play, tell TS and jog on. There's no room now for passengers and sulks.

I suspect the OP never saw us play under Gary Wilkinson.

Oh yes dear chap, many times, the wage bill for that entire team was less than some individual players (and coaches) are getting now...



And that team had no pretensions , had little top line experience aside from Whetu and Fletch and Gary wasn't an ex Aussie test coach...yet there was an enjoyment in watching kids doing their best for not a lot...as opposed to not doing their best for quite a lot...

Rose tinted glasses ask anyone what they'd prefer winning the league at a canter as boring as it was or getting beat 1-0 at home to barrow