what was the amateur scene like prior to that? had any foriegn teams toured? Genuinely interested. Are there are any cumbria rugby league histories knocking about?

My Dad reckons they were one of the greatest teams to play the game of Rugby League he ever saw.

The problem with growing old is, what people today call history, you remember as yesterday. You talk about Workington in the late forties, and who led it? None other than Gus Risman born in Cardiff. He recruited ' Ginger' Hughes from Barrow to organise the forwards. Hughes came from Llanelli, and had a son called Emlyn-average footballer I believe.

Buy 'The 'Indomitables' it covers the '46 tour of Australia and New Zealand published by London League publications. It gives you the state of the game at the end of the war, and there are pen pictutes of all players who took part.

There were often up to ten Welshmen in a side of the top rugby league teams in the forties. By the way we used to beat overseas teams at that time. A very good reason for having a Welsh team in the league.

Rickets, tuberculosis and diptheria were all big around that time too, along with the Germans invading half of Europe



Thats no reason for any of those things to come back either.



This is 2009 not 1940

So you are saying there are not hundreds of potential pro RL players in Wales ?



Once again Barry , The ash trays in the beer garden need emptying , and can you change the Strongbow

Starbug there are hundreds of potential RL players in Ireland



There are hundreds of potential RL players in England



There are MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of potential RL players in China



They are called 'people'



The secret is getting these 'people' interested enough to want to start.





Last weeks Celtic match against Leeds. I seriously think if you plucked 13 RL enthusiasts out of the crowd at Newport and gave them all Celtic jumpers they would have put up a better show than Celtic did

So you agree then , having a RL club IN WALES is the best way of getting potential RL players in Wales to play RL



The support of Celtic Crusaders is a separate issue as playing and watching are two different problems



Ask Quins

Oh come come now Barry.



You know there are thousands of registered rugby players in Wales already. Though both games are not the same, to do a conversion job is quite feasible for most of them.



In Bridgend for instance Wales' greatest rugby school (and on 2 occasions BRITAIN's reatest rugby school) now has far more take up for RL than it has for Union.



As a typical example, the Evans brothers who singed for Warrington youth (and have played for England but apparently will be representing Wales henceforth) came out of Brynteg (before the Cru youth scheme took off).



And as regards the 1940s producing not only huge Welsh representation in English club sides, but such illnesses as rickets and diptheria, well the former can be seen as a "good thing" and the latter two as a "bad thing".



Because of when these conditions were commonplace, would you also ban WD-40, nylon, radar, jet turbines, spam?



A transparent fallacy there Barrold, though oft used on here. You have combined the Analogical Fallacy and Bifurcation .Might I recommend a book called "How to win every argument" by Madsen Pirie? Most gambits used on this board are in there.

So you agree then , having a RL club IN WALES is the best way of getting potential RL players in Wales to play RL



The support of Celtic Crusaders is a separate issue as playing and watching are two different problems



Ask Quins

'Madsen Pirie' is my 'nom de plume'





Glad you enjoyed my tome sir.



The great Barry McKenzie oft starts an argument but never loses one as I'm sure you are well aware by now

baztardio you are 'owned' by so many people on this board due to your constant trolling and running away from arguments when it gets too tough (or similarly you claim to be banned from a board when clearly the moderators prove you haven't been)



If all you have in your life is the ambition to troll an internet forum you are indeed a really sad case! Previously I enjoyed what I saw as banter, it is quite apparrent now that your state of mind is questionable to say the least. I really do pity you!

I shall have to ask for your autograph then.



It's one of the most entertaining books I've read this year.