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Interesting points made on this blog here: edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2012/ ... can-smith/
A few things to highlight:
- In 2008/09 (the year the benefits scandal was exposed), IDS claimed over £98000 in expenses
- This is despite the fact he is on a salary of over £134000 a year
- His wife is much richer than him and has inherited a lot of money, they live in a £2m 3 acre farmhouse with tennis court, swimming pool and orchards
- In 2009 while his wife was ill with cancer he took 6 months off work and was paid £68000 by the taxpayer to cover this period
- His new proposals are that partners of cancer patients who have to take time off work to be carers should not receive 'open ended' support. Would being paid £68k for 6 months off count as open ended?
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Interesting points made on this blog here: edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2012/ ... can-smith/
A few things to highlight:
- In 2008/09 (the year the benefits scandal was exposed), IDS claimed over £98000 in expenses
- This is despite the fact he is on a salary of over £134000 a year
- His wife is much richer than him and has inherited a lot of money, they live in a £2m 3 acre farmhouse with tennis court, swimming pool and orchards
- In 2009 while his wife was ill with cancer he took 6 months off work and was paid £68000 by the taxpayer to cover this period
- His new proposals are that partners of cancer patients who have to take time off work to be carers should not receive 'open ended' support. Would being paid £68k for 6 months off count as open ended?
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Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Interesting points made on this blog here: edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2012/ ... can-smith/
A few things to highlight:
- In 2008/09 (the year the benefits scandal was exposed), IDS claimed over £98000 in expenses
- This is despite the fact he is on a salary of over £134000 a year
- His wife is much richer than him and has inherited a lot of money, they live in a £2m 3 acre farmhouse with tennis court, swimming pool and orchards
- In 2009 while his wife was ill with cancer he took 6 months off work and was paid £68000 by the taxpayer to cover this period
- His new proposals are that partners of cancer patients who have to take time off work to be carers should not receive 'open ended' support. Would being paid £68k for 6 months off count as open ended?'"
Why should he be any different to the any of the other greedy, tax-dodging, millionaire, benefit-scrounging expenses cheats.

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Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Interesting points made on this blog here: edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2012/ ... can-smith/
A few things to highlight:
- In 2008/09 (the year the benefits scandal was exposed), IDS claimed over £98000 in expenses
- This is despite the fact he is on a salary of over £134000 a year
- His wife is much richer than him and has inherited a lot of money, they live in a £2m 3 acre farmhouse with tennis court, swimming pool and orchards
- In 2009 while his wife was ill with cancer he took 6 months off work and was paid £68000 by the taxpayer to cover this period
- His new proposals are that partners of cancer patients who have to take time off work to be carers should not receive 'open ended' support. Would being paid £68k for 6 months off count as open ended?'"
Why should he be any different to the any of the other greedy, tax-dodging, millionaire, benefit-scrounging expenses cheats.

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Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Interesting points made on this blog here: edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2012/ ... can-smith/
A few things to highlight:
- In 2008/09 (the year the benefits scandal was exposed), IDS claimed over £98000 in expenses - Irrelevant. Did he commit fraud?
- This is despite the fact he is on a salary of over £134000 a year Irrelevant
- His wife is much richer than him and has inherited a lot of money, they live in a £2m 3 acre farmhouse with tennis court, swimming pool and orchards Also irrelevant
- In 2009 while his wife was ill with cancer he took 6 months off work and was paid £68000 by the taxpayer to cover this period Not sure what the policy is, but it does seem pretty generous I'll grant you.
- His new proposals are that partners of cancer patients who have to take time off work to be carers should not receive 'open ended' support. Would being paid £68k for 6 months off count as open ended? No since it ended after 6 months. Whether this was overly generous or not is a worthwhile debate though'"
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Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Interesting points made on this blog here: edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2012/ ... can-smith/
A few things to highlight:
- In 2008/09 (the year the benefits scandal was exposed), IDS claimed over £98000 in expenses - Irrelevant. Did he commit fraud?
- This is despite the fact he is on a salary of over £134000 a year Irrelevant
- His wife is much richer than him and has inherited a lot of money, they live in a £2m 3 acre farmhouse with tennis court, swimming pool and orchards Also irrelevant
- In 2009 while his wife was ill with cancer he took 6 months off work and was paid £68000 by the taxpayer to cover this period Not sure what the policy is, but it does seem pretty generous I'll grant you.
- His new proposals are that partners of cancer patients who have to take time off work to be carers should not receive 'open ended' support. Would being paid £68k for 6 months off count as open ended? No since it ended after 6 months. Whether this was overly generous or not is a worthwhile debate though'"
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Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Interesting points made on this blog here: edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2012/ ... can-smith/
- His new proposals are that partners of cancer patients who have to take time off work to be carers should not receive 'open ended' support. Would being paid £68k for 6 months off count as open ended?'"
Even worse and despicable than this is that cancer sufferers themselves would be time limited on ESA to 1 year and after that year they will be put onto JSA. Yes thats right, cancer sufferers have one year to "get better" then they're fit to work and will have to actively seek work or lose the benefit. The Lords overturned this and voted to give cancer sufferers unlimited time on ESA but this disgraceful governenment have said once it goes back to the Commons they will use an old 1700's law to overturn the decision.
Words failed me at the time and they still fail me now. 
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Quote sally cinnamon="sally cinnamon"Interesting points made on this blog here: edinburgheye.wordpress.com/2012/ ... can-smith/
- His new proposals are that partners of cancer patients who have to take time off work to be carers should not receive 'open ended' support. Would being paid £68k for 6 months off count as open ended?'"
Even worse and despicable than this is that cancer sufferers themselves would be time limited on ESA to 1 year and after that year they will be put onto JSA. Yes thats right, cancer sufferers have one year to "get better" then they're fit to work and will have to actively seek work or lose the benefit. The Lords overturned this and voted to give cancer sufferers unlimited time on ESA but this disgraceful governenment have said once it goes back to the Commons they will use an old 1700's law to overturn the decision.
Words failed me at the time and they still fail me now. 
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| Quote Hull White Star="Hull White Star"Even worse and despicable than this is that cancer sufferers themselves would be time limited on ESA to 1 year and after that year they will be put onto JSA. Yes thats right, cancer sufferers have one year to "get better" then they're fit to work and will have to actively seek work or lose the benefit. The Lords overturned this and voted to give cancer sufferers unlimited time on ESA but this disgraceful governenment have said once it goes back to the Commons they will use an old 1700's law to overturn the decision.
Words failed me at the time and they still fail me now.
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Words should never fail you when it comes to Tory Governments and sheer heartlessness. They have such a long track record of victimising victims and robbing the most deserving. If this lot could harness the air, there'd be people crawling along the pavements, past the 5-star restaurants in which the fatcats still gorge themselves, and wheezing their last few words... 'can you spare 50p for the gas meter?'
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| Quote Chief Stinkwort="Chief Stinkwort"Words should never fail you when it comes to Tory Governments and sheer heartlessness. They have such a long track record of victimising victims and robbing the most deserving. If this lot could harness the air, there'd be people crawling along the pavements, past the 5-star restaurants in which the fatcats still gorge themselves, and wheezing their last few words... 'can you spare 50p for the gas meter?''"
Let them eat cake springs to mind too.
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| 26k is more money than i take home
Do you think if MPs salary (and lets face it the expenses are part of that salary) was less it would make things better in Westminster, or worse?
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| I've long held the opinion that MP's should receive a stipend of £250k minimum.
In return they must undertake to perform no duties other than representing their constituents and possibly representing parliament. If they are called upon to perform duties other than representing their constituents, then they should receive expenses to cover any out of pocket costs. The £250k stipend includes any and all expenses they may incur if their business as an MP, so if they want to employ their wife or other family members, they can do so and pay them out of the £250k. Similarly, if they wish to own a second home, they are welcome to have one, they can pay the 2nd mortgage out of their £250k. The £250k stipend is also to cover travel between their constituency and parliament.
Oh, one more thing: their parliamentary working week will commence at 13.00 hours every Monday (bank holidays excepted) and end an 16.00 hours each Thursday. They then have all day Friday to attend to constituancy business. They should be aware though, a reasonable amount of overtime will be expected and will be unpaid.
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| Quote cod'ead="cod'ead"I've long held the opinion that MP's should receive a stipend of £250k minimum.
In return they must undertake to perform no duties other than representing their constituents and possibly representing parliament. If they are called upon to perform duties other than representing their constituents, then they should receive expenses to cover any out of pocket costs. The £250k stipend includes any and all expenses they may incur if their business as an MP, so if they want to employ their wife or other family members, they can do so and pay them out of the £250k. Similarly, if they wish to own a second home, they are welcome to have one, they can pay the 2nd mortgage out of their £250k. The £250k stipend is also to cover travel between their constituency and parliament.
Oh, one more thing: their parliamentary working week will commence at 13.00 hours every Monday (bank holidays excepted) and end an 16.00 hours each Thursday. They then have all day Friday to attend to constituancy business. They should be aware though, a reasonable amount of overtime will be expected and will be unpaid.'"
This would rule Boris out (thankfully !!), who regards 250k as a bit oif pocket money.
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| IDS's inclusion of child benefit in the calculation is particularly nasty. You will have the situation where a family would be denied this benefit because having it would take them over the £26K threshold while a family with two people earning £40K will keep it even after the stupid legislation to remove it form higher rate tax payers.
What this shows is he clearly does not understand the concept of a universal benefit and does not know the difference between that and a welfare benefit. Getting the latter when you fall on hard times should not disqualify you from the former.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"...What this shows is he clearly does not understand the concept of a universal benefit and does not know the difference between that and a welfare benefit. Getting the latter when you fall on hard times should not disqualify you from the former.'"
I think he knows the diefference all right, it just doesn't fit his dogma to see them as different.
But, hey, he's got a point ... those kids don't deserve to be helped, they shouldn't have chosen such lazy, feckless parents.
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| The best quote I heard yesterday was from one Tory, "Some people will lose their homes, they'll just have to move to a neighbourhood they can afford won't they".
The Labour party has a lot to answer for. They should be ripping into this nonsense but instead have disappeared up their own rear end talking about public spending cuts they can't commit to reversing "if" they get elected in three years time (which they absolutely won't anyway - and frankly don't deserve to be on current showing). F******g idiots led by a f*****g idiot.
He's "Tuff" though, really, really "Tuff". I almost cried the day they elected Mr Ed as leader, a coalition government that should have lasted 18 months with anything like a decent opposition has gone on to preside over riots, condemnation over rediculous and costly NHS reform plans, "increased" f*****g borrowing, sent us plummeting towards recession again (as predicted), the usual Tory levels of unemployment, the worst press scandal in living memory and now a highly predictable -it's all the foooking poor's fault bashing of people on benefits while the c***s who caused all the problems award themselves billions in bonus's again. And still, Call Me Dave's comedy writers have him sh***tting all over Mr Ed at every PM's question time.
Time to swap Millibands, hire Jon Stewart's writers and start taking some of the polish off the turd that is David Cameron (apparantly you can Mr Sadowitz - he's the living proof).
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