Quote RichieFC86="RichieFC86"Well with Skybet you can either take FC to top the league @ 12/1 or you can have a bet, that I do think has some value, on the season handicap for FC to top it with an 11 point start at 8/1! www.skybet.com/rugby-league/supe ... t/14628432'" I like that 11 point start bet. How many points were we behind Wigan after last seasons regular season finish?

Quote RichieFC86="RichieFC86"Well with Skybet you can either take FC to top the league @ 12/1 or you can have a bet, that I do think has some value, on the season handicap for FC to top it with an 11 point start at 8/1! www.skybet.com/rugby-league/supe ... t/14628432'" I like that 11 point start bet. How many points were we behind Wigan after last seasons regular season finish?

Ah, but I bet you have not review every match including the betting handicap have you? Those 4 draws, as far as the bookie was concerned were probably not draws.......

I bet that there was close to 20 draws overall.

10 I believe

Don't think you'll find many that don't agree Ellis is a quality player.

The bet on him to win MoS is a pretty decent shout, he's a big name and as such doesn't have to be as good as a lesser name to get the nomination, if Hull have a good year Ellis will get the a nomination unless he's completely gash which is unlikely.

disagree, I think he'll have to be better [ibecause[/i he is a big name, he'll also get targetted in matches so, which may give other players a chance to shine.

I agree to some extent but by being targetted he will be in the forefront of the players minds and as such more likely to the vote. Its rare you find an 'outsider' getting into the top three regardless of how good they've been

So, who do you think should have been MOS over the last three seasons, because from what I can ssee, the right player has won it each time...?

Last year could have been a few, didn;t think it was Tomkins best year TBH,

The year before was a joke, Tomkins was head and shoulders above chase, as was monaghan etc, god knows how he was even considered.

Roby the year before that was justified.

Be very wary of h/cap betting. The idea of a handicap is to have all 'runners' with the same chance. Therefore in a 12 team comp, you would want odds of above 8/1! These are just 'bookie' bets.

So if we managed the same, (and we had a few mares, dropping points we should never have done) we'd get 8/1?



Sounds generous to me.

Seriously i think Westerman is a very good player who could be fantastic and with another year under Gentle plus better quality personell around him i am hoping for big things from him this year, even bigger things than Ellis if im honest

If Westerman kicks on from, lets be honest, being disappointing last season (compared to the hype when he signed) then it will be great, I don't think he'll outstrip Ellis, but I'd love it to happen, especially as I've heard good things about Ellis in the friendlies.